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  • Unexpected crack sidelines my Manta Ray

    About this time last year, I made a post about finding a 2" hairline crack on the bottom of the hull next to one of the scupper hole tubes after having water collect in the hull. http://www.snaggedline.com/showthrea...highlight=goop

    I applied several coats of Goop to the crack. This easy repair immediately sealed the crack. It remained dry until two weeks ago. I noticed a quart or so of water in the hull. I set the boat right side up on two supports, then filled it part way with water. I saw a very slow drip in the area I had repaired last summer. I added more Goop and assumed all would be well. On the next outing, I still found a quart of water in the hull. Then on the second outing (yesterday), I found several gallons of water in the hull. The extra weight made it challenging to load to transport it home.

    Today before trying another home repair, I called Annapolis Canoe and Kayak, where I had bought the Native Manta Ray 14. The guy who answered told me to bring the kayak to the shop. I got there half an hour later. Within seconds of looking beneath the seat, he expressed disbelief because there were significant cracks in the rear of the seat well. There were two cracks 4" to 6" each across each rear corner of the well. When he pressed the area, that portion of the seat well sunk at least 1/2". The Manta Ray has a semi-permanently attached seat. Because of that, I had never removed the seat, and had not noticed any cracking.

    The shop told me they thought this could be handled by Native as a warranty issue. They will speak with the factory reps tomorrow morning. Knowing that the crack is that large, I do not plan to use the kayak again until it is fully repaired or replaced. I left the kayak at the shop. I eagerly await the reply from the Native representatives. In the meantime, if I want to get out for some kayak fishing, I will need to use my old Ocean Kayak Drifter and plan to keep my trips shorter (the Drifter has a much shorter time to butt fatigue).

    I will report back what happens in this story.
    John Veil
    Annapolis
    Native Watercraft Manta Ray 11, Falcon 11

    Author - "Fishing in the Comfort Zone" , "Fishing Road Trip - 2019", "My Fishing Life: Two Years to Remember", and "The Way I Like to Fish -- A Kayak Angler's Guide to Shallow Water, Light Tackle Fishing"

  • #2
    I'm sorry to hear about the Manta Ray, John. I hope that Native comes through for you with a repair or new hull under warranty.
    Your post reminded me about something I saw at the store 5 Below in Severna Park. I saw these stadium seats and thought they would make a good supplement to a kayak seat. For $4, it might be worth a try to ward off the butt fatigue.
    I actually found one on the beach at Jonas Green a few weeks ago. It is made of a high density foam and fits nicely under my kayak seat. I haven't actually tried it out yet but it can't hurt (no pun intended).
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    Hobie PA 12

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    • #3
      that sucks john. i had some issues with a tarpon120 and ann. c&k wernt the most helpfull wilderness dealer. at least you have a backup

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      • #4
        if they are anything like Hobie they will have it fixed or send you a new hull in no time. I have not heard anything negative about their customer Native's customer service.
        Interstate Kayak Fishing

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        • #5
          Here is a photo of the two large cracks in the seat well.

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          John Veil
          Annapolis
          Native Watercraft Manta Ray 11, Falcon 11

          Author - "Fishing in the Comfort Zone" , "Fishing Road Trip - 2019", "My Fishing Life: Two Years to Remember", and "The Way I Like to Fish -- A Kayak Angler's Guide to Shallow Water, Light Tackle Fishing"

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          • #6
            Sorry to hear that, John. I suspect at the worst case scenario if your warranty is expired that they'll give you a prorated swap, which is still a good deal. That's what happened on my last Outback when I upgraded to the Revo. I think I had to pay something like $175, or so, since my hull was about a year out of warranty. Good luck.
            Yellow Hobie Revo Rube Goldberg
            Yellow Tarpon 120

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            • #7
              That is a bummer. I'll have to take a look at my Manta Ray 11's seat pan.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by J.A. Veil View Post
                Here is a photo of the two large cracks in the seat well.

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                looks like they were caused by chocolate chip cookies (;

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                • #9
                  Sorry about that John, I cannot believe that crack in the picture. Hopefully it will get repaired or replaced soon. On a side note, I do agree with SurfDog, while examining your picture, I can see the imprint of a chocolate chip cookie
                  Last edited by moc; 08-30-2012, 08:55 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by surfdog View Post
                    looks like they were caused by chocolate chip cookies (;
                    There is no doubt about the fact that I am a larger than average guy, with a substantial posterior -- and I can attribute much of that to my wife's excellent baking.
                    John Veil
                    Annapolis
                    Native Watercraft Manta Ray 11, Falcon 11

                    Author - "Fishing in the Comfort Zone" , "Fishing Road Trip - 2019", "My Fishing Life: Two Years to Remember", and "The Way I Like to Fish -- A Kayak Angler's Guide to Shallow Water, Light Tackle Fishing"

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                    • #11
                      those cookies sure are good!
                      what did native say about the cracks?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by surfdog View Post
                        those cookies sure are good!
                        what did native say about the cracks?
                        No info yet.
                        John Veil
                        Annapolis
                        Native Watercraft Manta Ray 11, Falcon 11

                        Author - "Fishing in the Comfort Zone" , "Fishing Road Trip - 2019", "My Fishing Life: Two Years to Remember", and "The Way I Like to Fish -- A Kayak Angler's Guide to Shallow Water, Light Tackle Fishing"

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                        • #13
                          I had an email from Annapolis Canoe and Kayak this afternoon. They had contacted Native Watercraft about the cracks in my Manta Ray 14. The shop told me that Native will send me a brand new Manta Ray 14. I should get it whenever the shop receives its next shipment from Native.

                          That is outstanding customer support.
                          John Veil
                          Annapolis
                          Native Watercraft Manta Ray 11, Falcon 11

                          Author - "Fishing in the Comfort Zone" , "Fishing Road Trip - 2019", "My Fishing Life: Two Years to Remember", and "The Way I Like to Fish -- A Kayak Angler's Guide to Shallow Water, Light Tackle Fishing"

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                          • #14
                            That's great news. I love new boats.

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                            • #15
                              That's awesome John.
                              2012 Hobie Revo 13'
                              2012 Hobie PA12'

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