Local installation recommendations?

[zeebyrd]

Back to getting Scotty gear mounts on my Frontier 12. The person who I thought would do it cannot do it. Can anyone recommend a reputable kayak/boat dealer who will do a good job for a reasonable price? I have no problem paying to get it done right. I am sure I could attempt it myself, but I want it done right the first time - no room for error in drilling into a kayak.

Thanks in advance!

[CB kayak 02]

Back to getting Scotty gear mounts on my Frontier 12. The person who I thought would do it cannot do it. Can anyone recommend a reputable kayak/boat dealer who will do a good job for a reasonable price? I have no problem paying to get it done right. I am sure I could attempt it myself, but I want it done right the first time - no room for error in drilling into a kayak.

Thanks in advance!

What mounts are you trying to put on? Flush mounts... etc?

[archeryrob]

Some one has to near Columbia. Offer free beer and maybe someone will help you out.

Do you just need it drilled and riveted, or bolted?

[zeebyrd]

I am using Scotty's 241 Combination Side or Deck Mount. I was planning to use plastic backing plates with flange nuts. I also have Scotty's rivets, which is another possibility.

[zeebyrd]

Free beer is always a good thing.

Drilled - bolted or riveted. I want to be able to use my fish finder and possibly some fishing rod holders. I had two installed when I bought the yak in Ocean City, but they are too far forward for me to reach.

Some one has to near Columbia. Offer free beer and maybe someone will help you out.

Do you just need it drilled and riveted, or bolted?

[archeryrob]

Where are you going to mount them? Are you doing in the tankwell installation for the transducer?

Do you have any tools? I looked at a picture of the frontier and don't see any inside access except the very front. Your arms have to be able to reach it to used a backer plate and nuts. Rivets will work unless you get a big fish slam it.

[reel-em-in]

Where are you going to mount them? Are you doing in the tankwell installation for the transducer?

Do you have any tools? I looked at a picture of the frontier and don't see any inside access except the very front. Your arms have to be able to reach it to used a backer plate and nuts. Rivets will work unless you get a big fish slam it.

This guy has a good how to on installing backer plates in hard to reach places... http://palmettokayakfishing.blogspot...max-results=33

[zeebyrd]

I was going to mount them somewhere about the middle, a bit in front of where I sit. I was going to do backing plates "threaded" through the hatch to the spot where the mounts were to be placed. This link was posted in another thread:
http://palmettokayakfishing.blogspot...stall.html?m=1

The transducer is going to be on a Ram Mount on a gear head track mount, extended over the side as my hull is too thick for it to go through. I've already discovered this issue with a puck transducer in numerous locations down in the hatch.

I have the Scotty mount for the fish finder, but the screw holes do not match up to my Lowrance as it was stated on Scotty's package. Scotty seemed to indicate that I was supposed to have a bracket with my fish finder or I was supposed to buy one. I will just make another plate to attach to the Scotty mount, which will then attach to my fish finder. This, I can do. I may attach this to a mount that I currently have on a plastic board that is attached to the seat that is installed bottom side up (it has holes in it to allow you to attach different types of seats, so no drilling was involved).

As for the rod mounts, I have two in the front, which I cannot reach. I may just have to forgo these until I get the help promised.

I have a crate with rod holders, so at least I have that to keep extra rods out of the way when not in use.

I wish I had known where I wanted everything placed when I bought the yak. The store in O.C. was very helpful with installing what I currently have on there. Of course I really learned where I wanted things when I got out and used it a few times.

Thank you everyone for all your offers and suggestions. I may end up needing help, but I will put it on hold for now, as perhaps next week I will get the installation done.

Too much kayak drama for me.

Where are you going to mount them? Are you doing in the tankwell installation for the transducer?

Do you have any tools? I looked at a picture of the frontier and don't see any inside access except the very front. Your arms have to be able to reach it to used a backer plate and nuts. Rivets will work unless you get a big fish slam it.

[zeebyrd]

I have watched this video. If I knew I could drill in my kayak without making any mistakes, I would do it in a heart beat. I had already cut out the backing plates and was ready for it. Somehow, the idea got trashed by my helper.

The more I think about this option, the more and more I like it. I know that there will be an issue of where I can place my feet if I use gear head track mounts, unless I take out the front seat (hybrid kayak with canoe seats). As it is, without anything in the tracks, except for the two seats, my feet sometimes end up resting on the tracks.

This guy has a good how to on installing backer plates in hard to reach places... http://palmettokayakfishing.blogspot...max-results=33

[zeebyrd]

Forgot to answer - yes, I do have tools. I am just intimidated by having to drill into the kayak hull myself.

Where are you going to mount them? Are you doing in the tankwell installation for the transducer?

Do you have any tools? I looked at a picture of the frontier and don't see any inside access except the very front. Your arms have to be able to reach it to used a backer plate and nuts. Rivets will work unless you get a big fish slam it.

[archeryrob]

So you are fine with other people drilling holes in you kayak , right? I'll drill all kind of holes in your kayak for you, I'm better after a few beers. <sarcasm>

You really sound to have this figured out and sound like you just need a little more moral support. I am a bit out of the way out here in the mountains. You sound like you just need someone standing over you reassuring you, but you sound like you have the plan down. BTW, that is Tall Paul from Palmeto Kayak in the video.

Also, flange nuts to me are the ones with built in washers. You want to hammer in ones like the link below. They sell them with teeth to bite in, and another kind with a knurled shaft to bind in the drilled out hole. They sell them in the drawers in Lowes or Home Depot. You just set them with a hammer.
http://www.mcfeelys.com/product/LTN-...-Tee-Nut-Large

[zeebyrd]

Hmmm, think you've got something there... Maybe I need a few beers to reassure myself! I've taken computers apart, put new computers together from scratch, worked on the carb on my '59 Farmall Cub, tuned it up (btw, anyone interested in a real beauty of a tractor - its going up for sale soon).

This is what I will do. I will attempt one on my own. If I get totally lost, I'll buy a case of beer, post here, drink some of the beer, and wait for help. LOL

I do know what I want and how I want it. I do know what I don't want - holes drilled where they shouldn't be.

I really appreciate all the comments and suggestions here. I think I needed a lot of info to give me some food (or is it beer?) for thought. I am the adventurous type, so I think I will attempt this on my own and see how far I can get. All I need is to get the flange nuts and a possibly a smaller drill bit that I do not currently have.

[archeryrob]

Since its your first time just remember the measure twice and cut (drill) once. Just take your time and make a lot of planning time. Then when finished, post lots of pictures here.

[zeebyrd]

I'll be sure to post lots of photos with empty beer bottles in them.

Since its your first time just remember the measure twice and cut (drill) once. Just take your time and make a lot of planning time. Then when finished, post lots of pictures here.

[ronaultmtd]

KISS comes into play- keeping it simple is key- I use the front of my kayak for 90% of everything- I have a crate for storage and use YakAttack mighty mounts for my Carbon Visipole in the rear of my Hobie- I also have a self contained livewell that I use when live lining that takes the place of my crate- my live well has four rod holders built in the front, so I still have extra rod holders- I use two upfront rod holders when trolling and have my Lawrence Elite 5 DSI chartplotter mounted within easy reach on the right side of my Kayak- I have a slight case of over kill in my battery- a 12 aH AGM 12 volt battery- but I don't have to ever worry about a dead battery for my electronics- It is mounted in an insulated lunch bag attached to the bottom of my front hatch cover- secure and doesn't move around in rough waters- my transducer setup is an in-water one that uses the swing arm Mad Frog mini Liberator mounting system on a Scotty flush mount on the left front side of my Kayak-in our last trip Moc and I were side-by-side trolling and my in water transducer had a slightly cooler temp reading than his in-hull mount-