Buying second kayak. Need advice

[Nickipod98]

I had a perception sports pescador 12 kayak last year. I had to sell it in the beginning of this year. My birthday is coming up in a few weeks and I will have around 1100 dollars to spend on a fishing kayak. I will mainly fish inshore for snook and tarpon in Miami. I will also consider going offshore for Pelagics. I have been considering these kayaks. Trident 13 angler(comes with free camera), cruise 12, and native slayer. I am looking for something stable so I can stand up and sight fish inshore. Advice would be nice. I keep changing my mind.

[Nickipod98]

Anyone?

[J.A. Veil]

I fish several times a year in the Tampa, FL area. The guide with whom I fish puts me into a Native Ultimate 14.5. He loves that boat for fishing the flats, and has an entire fleet of them. I have seen many other kayak anglers in that area with the same boat. It is light to lift on land, paddles well, has a comfortable seat, is roomy, and allows for standing. It's design does not have scupper holes, so I would not use it offshore or in rough water where a wave or large wake could swamp it.

Native introduced a new version of the Ultimate (FX series -- 12 ft and 15 ft length) earlier this year that offers many modern features. After this year they will no longer produce the earlier Ultimate. As a result you may be able to find a new or lightly used Ultimate at a reduced price. The Ultimate also comes (came) in a 12 ft size.

You mentioned the Native Slayer as one of your options. That kayak is very good too, but represents a different design. It comes in 12 ft and 14.5 ft versions. The Slayer has a raised "lawn chair-style" seat and plenty of gear tracks. Users can easily stand for sight casting. It paddles well too.

I cannot comment on the other models you listed as options. But I think you would be happy with any of the Native products.

[Snakehead Hunter]

Definitely Trident 13. I have one, it has decent speed, stability. I stand on it to sight cast for SH, its not design for it but a lot of people can stand on it.

[Nickipod98]

I fish several times a year in the Tampa, FL area. The guide with whom I fish puts me into a Native Ultimate 14.5. He loves that boat for fishing the flats, and has an entire fleet of them. I have seen many other kayak anglers in that area with the same boat. It is light to lift on land, paddles well, has a comfortable seat, is roomy, and allows for standing. It's design does not have scupper holes, so I would not use it offshore or in rough water where a wave or large wake could swamp it.

Native introduced a new version of the Ultimate (FX series -- 12 ft and 15 ft length) earlier this year that offers many modern features. After this year they will no longer produce the earlier Ultimate. As a result you may be able to find a new or lightly used Ultimate at a reduced price. The Ultimate also comes (came) in a 12 ft size.

You mentioned the Native Slayer as one of your options. That kayak is very good too, but represents a different design. It comes in 12 ft and 14.5 ft versions. The Slayer has a raised "lawn chair-style" seat and plenty of gear tracks. Users can easily stand for sight casting. It paddles well too.

I cannot comment on the other models you listed as options. But I think you would be happy with any of the Native products.

I like the slayer because of the chair and the add-ons so the slayer is definetly on the top of my list.

[Nickipod98]

Definitely Trident 13. I have one, it has decent speed, stability. I stand on it to sight cast for SH, its not design for it but a lot of people can stand on it.

Only concern from me is that I'm a big guy and I'm afraid the less wide design might not be confortable

[J.A. Veil]

I like the slayer because of the chair and the add-ons so the slayer is definetly on the top of my list.

The new Ultimate FX uses the same First Class seat with high/low seating positions as does the Slayer. Both are excellent kayaks. If you want the option to use it in rougher water, the Slayer would be a better choice.

[Nickipod98]

The new Ultimate FX uses the same First Class seat with high/low seating positions as does the Slayer. Both are excellent kayaks. If you want the option to use it in rougher water, the Slayer would be a better choice.

Only concern is the slayer doesn't have flush rod holders

[Frogsauce]

Viking Kayaks if your looking to go off-shore. Just check into them and you will see how superior they are for big ocean.

Those kiwi's are in the big dangerous waters and that's what they were designed for. You might have to save an extra $200 from your budget.

[Nickipod98]

Viking Kayaks if your looking to go off-shore. Just check into them and you will see how superior they are for big ocean.

Those kiwi's are in the big dangerous waters and that's what they were designed for. You might have to save an extra $200 from your budget.

thanks, but it am probably only going to go offshore a few times and I'm not really looking to spend more than my budget. Also the reason why I have the slayer listed here is because my local store has them for 990

[kevinfry]

Moken 13.....it will do all you want and I bet you could find last years model for your $1100. Great off shore boat. Good speed

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[JohnE]

You might look at the ride 135 and get the new vantage seat. Should be able to find one on sale somewhere and try to get it from a shop that can get you the $150 voucher for the new seat.

[J.A. Veil]

Only concern is the slayer doesn't have flush rod holders

That is correct. You have much more flexibility for trolling and rod storage if you add Scotty or Ram mounts and rod holders that can be adjusted to different positions. You can bolt on Scotty base mounts behind the seat and add Scotty gear head track bases on the gear tracks. Or add a milk crate with vertical rod holders behind your seat.

If flush mount rod holders are very important for you, there is enough space behind the seat to add flush mounts there.

[Nickipod98]

That is correct. You have much more flexibility for trolling and rod storage if you add Scotty or Ram mounts and rod holders that can be adjusted to different positions. You can bolt on Scotty base mounts behind the seat and add Scotty gear head track bases on the gear tracks. Or add a milk crate with vertical rod holders behind your seat.

If flush mount rod holders are very important for you, there is enough space behind the seat to add flush mounts there.

budget upped to 2000

[JohnE]

Just save some more and buy the new outback if you already have that much to spend.