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    What kind of distance do you get pedaling before needing a break. I know wind and tide take distance off, but how far on average can you go before needing a break or switching to paddling?
    John
    Hobie Adventure Island 16'

    Slayer Propel 10

    Pelican Trailblazer ( don't hate , pond use only)

  • #2
    There is generally no switching to paddling for me unless I get into really technical current that I need to overcome. On flat or easy waves, I'm generally doing 2-4 mile legs to find fish and smaller patterns once I've located them at speeds generally between 2.5-3mph. I've found I need to stop for rest at around the 6-8 mile mark.


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    • #3
      Generally no rest needed for me. I think the only time I really stop is if I get a tangle or a double hookup. The effort to maintain 3 mph probably actually less than walking on flat ground for me.
      Mike

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      • #4
        Saturday I put in 15 miles. I took a few breaks on purpose but usually your breaks will come naturally, when fighting a fish or rigging a line. There's not much effort needed for a 3mph troll. It's insane how efficient peddling is. I used to be afraid of 3 miles when paddling.


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        • #5
          No breaks and definitely no paddling. It may take some time to get your legs used to it but after a while you can go all day.
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          • #6
            I can't remember taking my paddle off the side of my kayak for anything other than launch/landing, and that rarely even happens.

            Normal day of fishing for me is between 10-15 miles of pedaling.
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            • #7
              I will run against the grain of this thread because I lose interest during long-term trolling sessions – even when catching fish. I’ve done double-digit mile days but often during those days I will stop trolling and cast to fishy-looking areas. I may indeed leave fish in the water with that technique but I enjoy casting more than trolling. I cannot escape my freshwater bass fishing past. So my rest stops are not as much due to fatigue as to preference. I just can’t pass areas with ripping current, points of shoreline, riprap or breaking fish without launching casts toward them. Old habits are hard to break.
              Mark
              Pasadena, MD


              Slate Hobie Revolution 13
              Hidden Oak Native Ultimate 12
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              • #8
                Like the others mentioned, and Mike hit the nail on the head I think....it's much like walking, so you can kinda go indefinitely to some extent. But certainly stopping to fight a fish or to jig a piling will lead to natural breaks. I'll also turn the Torqeedo on and just cruise for a little while so I can take some lunch or pee :-) But like the others, 10-15 miles is a pretty typical day which is 5-8 hours of fishing.

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                • #9
                  I purchase a used Pro Angler this summer, so I am pretty new to the Hobie world. On my first trip I pedaled a 7.5 mile round trip, I spent a good amount of time testing out different adjustments for the pedals, stroke lengths and seat adjustments. Most of the trips I've taken since have been 10-12 miles 5-6 hours, with an average speed of 3.0 mph. Top speed of 4.5 mph(I'd like to think I am burning a few calories when i push it a bit). I have found my self stopping for just a bit here and there, just to stop - relax and enjoy being out.(Thanks EMSer). Anyway, I just picked up my son from the YMCA. He was complaining about being sore after playing 2 hrs of dodge ball and swimming. I had to explain to him, if your body is not used to being used (conditioning) you're going to feel the effects. Same thing here, if you're body is not used to walking/stair stepping ect.- then its going to need to be conditioned. Drink lots of water the day before, stay hydrated!

                  I am with Mark as well, its hard pedaling past shallow points, rocks and grass beds, when you know there is a striper sitting there waiting to pounce on your popper.

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                  • #10
                    In freshwater applications I've found less need to rest....for me this is due to my native slayer propel and being able to slow troll.

                    I was wondering if anyone could do the same in the hobie? Vary the trolling speed?


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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Yakie_Noodle View Post
                      In freshwater applications I've found less need to rest....for me this is due to my native slayer propel and being able to slow troll.

                      I was wondering if anyone could do the same in the hobie? Vary the trolling speed?


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                      Yes, you can troll at any speed you want with a Hobie...from barely moving to what ever an individual's comfortable speed is. I rarely troll faster than 2.5 mph, but if I pushed it I could get up to 3.5-4 and be able to hold that speed for quite a while, but then more breaks would be needed.

                      Keep in mind what "bait" you are trying to imitate, and go the speed of food. Baitfish can have bursts of speed, but they don't keep that speed up for very long, it also wouldn't look too natural for bait to be running scared with nothing chasing it. A fish's max speed (within reason, and limited by drag even for very large tuna and billfish) is roughly 1mph per inch of total fish length. So, replicating a 5" baitfish, would be a max speed of 5mph, they swim at less than half that speed when they are just moving about.
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                      • #12
                        Very good answer Cowpokey. Thanks


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