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Ok guys, I've been gone for a while. No longer in the kayak game but still fishing. That said this is a subject that's been discussed on tidal fish for sometime, the problem however is that it gets shut down because people get off topic and out of control. So I've moved this topic over to the hull truth in hopes that it will stay on track. If any of you are unfamiliar with the site it is a very good resource to fishing in our areas and surrounding, even though it is boationg orientated.
So I ask you guys to read this and if it something you have feeling and an opinion about, no matter who's side you are on and you wish to share, I ask you please to join over there to join in on the conversation. I'm Hoping to build a huge knowledge base as I've shared this post to the whole east coast and gulf forums, places that once allowed reduction fishing and no longer do.
Additionally I would like to thank everyone in advance for your time and thoughts as I know it is a long read.
Please be advised as this is my own opinion.
My post reads as follows:
I'm copying this post I made in the mid Atlantic forum as I would like to get all the input I can from surrounding areas and area where reduction fishing was once allowed. I ask to keep everything in one area for the benefit of our fishery if everyone could please reply in that thread specifically for all to read. I will copy the link below for replies and thank everyone for any support and insight that can be given.
Link for reply:
http://www.thehulltruth.com/mid-atla...-s-ceased.html
Post reads as follows:
Ok guys so we all know about or should at least know about omega protien. The big blue raper of the bay (mid to southern chesapeake). Perhaps not all see them as that. It seems to be quite the discussion down here in Virginia and is one of the few topics over on tidal fish that most agree on.
That said, many have recently been discussing the fact that money talks and recs don't show up enough in support of ourselves at public hearings. Others state that without money on our end no one will listen anyways.
Many know what the southern fishery once was and now it's great decline over the years. No forage fish = no predatory fish. To further this statement we look to Maryland. One simply has to look at the 2017 reports you guys post and the size and amount of decent to good size eating rockfish you guys post about. Omega isn't allowed that far north if I'm correct so the forage is there a long with the predators.
So the intentions of this post are simple. Anywhere that omega used to fish and no longer can, please speak up. Make it public about how the fishery has rebounded. Help us in the southern bay. We are still all in the same bay, the nation's largest marine estuary.
We need all the support we can. It seems like the Chesapeake bay foundation, Virginia institute of marine science, Virginia marine resources commission. And even our (sarcasm) lovely govener all have a hand in omega proteins pocket.
So any experts (professional) out there, general opinions of recreational fishermen etc. Please speak up and help fight the fight.
This topic isn't started as a fight amongst ourselves but one to benefit us all.
Now from myself it's simply sickening to see spotter planes find our few remaining schools of menhedan only for the boats to come scoop them all up. At a minimum outlaw the spotter planes.
Our trophy rockfish season came and went. It seems as if all the big girls bypassed us all together while Maryland. And New Jersey still did well. How can we continue to allow the Amfsc (spelling?) Continue to do stock assessments of the entire east coast yet omega is allowed to pull their tonnage out of the Chesapeake bay and inshore waters alone. It is absolutely nuts.
Our cobia used to be caught with stomachs full of menhedan, this year all fish whether caught deep of shallow were all full of msnyis shrimp. Sure they ate finding food , but what happens when that's depleted.
We must do everything we can for this nursery to survive.
Additionally you would think ducks unlimited would be interested as well as waterfowlers in general. This area was once the sportsman paradise yet waterfowl number are longer what they once were in this state. Losses of aquatic vegetation is part of the reason. It's all one connected ecosystem, from predators to prey. Menhedan are forage fish which also filter the water. Their loss can most likely be aligned with shellfish population and further tied to vegetation in the bay. This granted is my opinion but someone without a hand in omega proteins pocket must know the facts and wish to speak the truth.
Sorry for the long winded post but this is something that must be talked about before its all gone.
So I ask you guys to read this and if it something you have feeling and an opinion about, no matter who's side you are on and you wish to share, I ask you please to join over there to join in on the conversation. I'm Hoping to build a huge knowledge base as I've shared this post to the whole east coast and gulf forums, places that once allowed reduction fishing and no longer do.
Additionally I would like to thank everyone in advance for your time and thoughts as I know it is a long read.
Please be advised as this is my own opinion.
My post reads as follows:
I'm copying this post I made in the mid Atlantic forum as I would like to get all the input I can from surrounding areas and area where reduction fishing was once allowed. I ask to keep everything in one area for the benefit of our fishery if everyone could please reply in that thread specifically for all to read. I will copy the link below for replies and thank everyone for any support and insight that can be given.
Link for reply:
http://www.thehulltruth.com/mid-atla...-s-ceased.html
Post reads as follows:
Ok guys so we all know about or should at least know about omega protien. The big blue raper of the bay (mid to southern chesapeake). Perhaps not all see them as that. It seems to be quite the discussion down here in Virginia and is one of the few topics over on tidal fish that most agree on.
That said, many have recently been discussing the fact that money talks and recs don't show up enough in support of ourselves at public hearings. Others state that without money on our end no one will listen anyways.
Many know what the southern fishery once was and now it's great decline over the years. No forage fish = no predatory fish. To further this statement we look to Maryland. One simply has to look at the 2017 reports you guys post and the size and amount of decent to good size eating rockfish you guys post about. Omega isn't allowed that far north if I'm correct so the forage is there a long with the predators.
So the intentions of this post are simple. Anywhere that omega used to fish and no longer can, please speak up. Make it public about how the fishery has rebounded. Help us in the southern bay. We are still all in the same bay, the nation's largest marine estuary.
We need all the support we can. It seems like the Chesapeake bay foundation, Virginia institute of marine science, Virginia marine resources commission. And even our (sarcasm) lovely govener all have a hand in omega proteins pocket.
So any experts (professional) out there, general opinions of recreational fishermen etc. Please speak up and help fight the fight.
This topic isn't started as a fight amongst ourselves but one to benefit us all.
Now from myself it's simply sickening to see spotter planes find our few remaining schools of menhedan only for the boats to come scoop them all up. At a minimum outlaw the spotter planes.
Our trophy rockfish season came and went. It seems as if all the big girls bypassed us all together while Maryland. And New Jersey still did well. How can we continue to allow the Amfsc (spelling?) Continue to do stock assessments of the entire east coast yet omega is allowed to pull their tonnage out of the Chesapeake bay and inshore waters alone. It is absolutely nuts.
Our cobia used to be caught with stomachs full of menhedan, this year all fish whether caught deep of shallow were all full of msnyis shrimp. Sure they ate finding food , but what happens when that's depleted.
We must do everything we can for this nursery to survive.
Additionally you would think ducks unlimited would be interested as well as waterfowlers in general. This area was once the sportsman paradise yet waterfowl number are longer what they once were in this state. Losses of aquatic vegetation is part of the reason. It's all one connected ecosystem, from predators to prey. Menhedan are forage fish which also filter the water. Their loss can most likely be aligned with shellfish population and further tied to vegetation in the bay. This granted is my opinion but someone without a hand in omega proteins pocket must know the facts and wish to speak the truth.
Sorry for the long winded post but this is something that must be talked about before its all gone.
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