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    What’s up folks. I’m new to the trolling for fish thing and was looking for any tips or techniques. What rod holders are you guys using for trolling. I fish out of a 2019 outback.


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    What rods and reels are you using? I fish spinning reels out of stock Hobie Outback holders generally.
    Tight lines
    Hobie Ivory Dune Outback
    Hobie Caribbean Blue Sport
    Wilderness Red Tsunami 145
    Wilderness Green "Warhorse" Tarpon 160

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    • #3
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      PVC zipped tied to a crate behind the seat has served me very well....and makes a super comfy arm rest to doze on when I'm soaking bait for cats....
      Hobie Outback
      Stand Up Paddle Board
      Pelican 100

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      • #4
        For tips on trolling - Alan’s book “Light Tackle Kayak Trolling the Chesapeake Bay” is a great starting point to cover the basics. The book is worth it’s weight in fish To your question about rod holders - there’s a ton of options out there now. The new Yak Attack Omega series that are track mounted are what I use. They fixed the issue with the Ram ball slipping and work great. Recommend getting the extensions for them so they don’t bump your legs when peddling.
        J

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ski357 View Post
          What rods and reels are you using? I fish spinning reels out of stock Hobie Outback holders generally.
          I have some shimano c3000 reels on some 7.5 foot inshore rods


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          • #6
            Originally posted by Jman View Post
            For tips on trolling - Alan’s book “Light Tackle Kayak Trolling the Chesapeake Bay” is a great starting point to cover the basics. The book is worth it’s weight in fish To your question about rod holders - there’s a ton of options out there now. The new Yak Attack Omega series that are track mounted are what I use. They fixed the issue with the Ram ball slipping and work great. Recommend getting the extensions for them so they don’t bump your legs when peddling.
            Thanks I’ll look them up


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            • #7
              Originally posted by clm View Post
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              PVC zipped tied to a crate behind the seat has served me very well....and makes a super comfy arm rest to doze on when I'm soaking bait for cats....
              lol. Nice


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              • #8
                As was said before ......... get Alan’s book ........ best out there and should be in every fisherman’s library

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                • #9
                  I put a scotty rocket launchers on either side of my Outback in the side trays about mid way on the boat. They are slightly behind my hips which ends up being more comfortable for reaching for the rods when they are angled slightly forward so I can see the tips. It's a tough place to install a rod holder but I've put them in on three different outbacks now and have developed some tricks for it. Scotty now makes a product that makes it a lot easier and that's the mounting plate backer.

                  The quick run down is:
                  1) test dry fit the rocket launcher in the base while you're sitting in the kayak to confirm install
                  2) place scotty base where you want to install
                  3) take a piece of pool noodle or a plastic bottle and put between your rudder lines and the hull under the area
                  4) hold down firmly and LIGHTLY drill the screw holes for the scotty backer plate and watch out for your rudder lines
                  5) take 2 pieces of heavy mono and tie them to something to keep them from going through the screw holes.
                  6) thread into boat in opposite corners and then fish them out.
                  7) thread through the matching corners in the backer plate and tie on something sturdy, make sure you are clear of rudder lines
                  8) pull the plate up (again make sure rudder lines aren't caught up), place the scotty block with some goop on each screw hole, and LIGHTLY screw in the two non-string holes. Make sure you don't try to push hard into the backer plate bc you can push the nuts out
                  9) cut the mono and screw in the other two corners.
                  10) catch fish.
                  Used to fish more.

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                  • #10
                    I prefer having my rods where they are an easy grab for trolling. Moc & Plastic boat have a unique rod holder pvc set up on their outbacks where tubes extend forward off the side holds their rods for trolling. I don't use a Hobie and my kayak has a transom mount trolling motor so I have a setup holder with extensions to keep the rod tips up high and the line stays high over the motor, As far as rods I use 7-7.5 foot and up to 9.6 trolling rods with line counters. It just depends on what I am targeting... Moc, Plastic Boat and My setup.

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                    • #11
                      I have been trolling in kayaks since about 2002, but got more serious about it in 2012. I troll 4 rods from my larger kayaks and 3 from my smaller one. I use all Scotty rod holders and have posted about how I install them several times in the past on Snaggedline. Use the Search function for more information.

                      Several commenters have recommended Alan Battista's book on light tackle trolling -- it is an excellent reference that can help you learn much more about trolling. My book, Fishing in the Comfort Zone, also contains some sections on light tackle trolling that can augment what you learn from Alan's book.

                      A few weeks ago I wrote an article on installing rod holders on kayaks. It has been submitted to FishTalk magazine and will eventually be published there, although it may be condensed to fit their format. The full version of that article is currently available on a fishing website run by my kayak guide in Tampa -- capmel.com. The article can be found at http://www.capmel.com/attaching-rod-holders-to-a-kayak/. Note that when he loaded the article, he did not place all the photos next to the appropriate text. Nevertheless, the information there may help you.
                      John Veil
                      Annapolis
                      Native Watercraft Manta Ray 11, Falcon 11

                      Author - "Fishing in the Comfort Zone" , "Fishing Road Trip - 2019", "My Fishing Life: Two Years to Remember", and "The Way I Like to Fish -- A Kayak Angler's Guide to Shallow Water, Light Tackle Fishing"

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                      • #12
                        Thanks guys for the comments on my books, much appreciated!

                        Light Tackle Kayak Trolling the Chesapeake Bay, Author
                        Light Tackle Kayak Jigging the Chesapeake Bay, Author
                        Light Tackle Fishing Patterns of the Chesapeake Bay, Author
                        Kokatat Pro Staff
                        Torqeedo Pro Staff
                        Humminbird Pro Staff

                        2011 Ivory Dune Outback and 2018 Solo Skiff
                        Alan

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                        • #13
                          What size jig heads are you guys using for trolling to keep the bait in the right water column


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                          • #14
                            It depends on how deep the water is (will vary based on tide), your speed, and where in the water column you think the fish are. I don't want my jigheads hitting bottom because that usually picks up some dirt or vegetation.

                            Over the past three weeks, I have trolled on 12 different trips in shallow water in Prospect Bay. Much of the water where I am trolling is 3 to 6 ft deep. I am using primarily 1/4-oz and 3/16-oz jigheads here. If the water level is high, I may put a 1/2-oz jighead or a diving crankbait on one of the rods. This morning's trip produced 21 stripers (mostly small) and two perch in about two hours of trolling. There was more floating grass today and muddy water clarity after strong winds and some rain yesterday.

                            If I am fishing deeper waters, I adjust my jighead weights upward and may use 1/2-oz, 3/4-oz, 1-oz or slightly heavier. Even with the heaviest jigheads I use, I am not going real deep. I am targeting fish in the upper section of the water column. If you want to go deeper, you need to use heavier lures and possibly heavier rods.

                            If you are uncertain about depth, try using different weight jigheads on 2 or 3 rods. If you see them hitting bottom, you are going too heavy.
                            John Veil
                            Annapolis
                            Native Watercraft Manta Ray 11, Falcon 11

                            Author - "Fishing in the Comfort Zone" , "Fishing Road Trip - 2019", "My Fishing Life: Two Years to Remember", and "The Way I Like to Fish -- A Kayak Angler's Guide to Shallow Water, Light Tackle Fishing"

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by J.A. Veil View Post
                              It depends on how deep the water is (will vary based on tide), your speed, and where in the water column you think the fish are. I don't want my jigheads hitting bottom because that usually picks up some dirt or vegetation.

                              Over the past three weeks, I have trolled on 12 different trips in shallow water in Prospect Bay. Much of the water where I am trolling is 3 to 6 ft deep. I am using primarily 1/4-oz and 3/16-oz jigheads here. If the water level is high, I may put a 1/2-oz jighead or a diving crankbait on one of the rods. This morning's trip produced 21 stripers (mostly small) and two perch in about two hours of trolling. There was more floating grass today and muddy water clarity after strong winds and some rain yesterday.

                              If I am fishing deeper waters, I adjust my jighead weights upward and may use 1/2-oz, 3/4-oz, 1-oz or slightly heavier. Even with the heaviest jigheads I use, I am not going real deep. I am targeting fish in the upper section of the water column. If you want to go deeper, you need to use heavier lures and possibly heavier rods.

                              If you are uncertain about depth, try using different weight jigheads on 2 or 3 rods. If you see them hitting bottom, you are going too heavy.
                              Thanks for the information bro.


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