Full spool of Braid??

[Slackdaddy]

I am typ running 4 rods when tidal creek fishing, they are 6' - 6'-6" med rods, the reels are typ 1000 to 3000 series, 20-30# braid.
I have a no name 1000 series on 6' med rod that will send a 1/4oz lure to the moon, my 3000 series Pflueger on a 6-6 rod will only go 1/2 the distance.

Only difference I see is the 3000 is not 100% full of line. But it cost SO much to fill a 3000 series spool, especially if you are respooling after breaking off 50' of line.

My fear is if I actually get a 30" SH on the 1000 series reel,, will it hold up? (The rod and 30# braid will be fine)
One issue is the 3000 spool holds SO MUCH line,, is there a way to "Buffer" it prior to putting the braid on?

I tried leaving it 2/3 full of the old braid and tying on the last 50 yards or so (the line I would actually be casting),, does not work, that knot hangs up, even if the is a few wraps on it.

Any tips would be appreciated,
Slack

[Mark]

Have you tried mono as backing under the braid?

[Slackdaddy]

Tying the 2 together?
My problem is the knot creates a bulge, or even the tail of the knot sticks thru hanging up the "good" outer line.

(Yes I am hiding in the AC today after 13 hours on the water yesterday)

Have you tried mono as backing under the braid?

[Big Mike]

The FG knot will give you an extremely thin knot that you should not notice once you overlay the braid.

[Slackdaddy]

I was in 4-H not Boy Scouts we never learned knots, just goosing live stock.

Thank God for youtube !!

The FG knot will give you an extremely thin knot that you should not notice once you overlay the braid.

[Memory Maker]

Yes ....... a 1000 series will hold up.

[Mark]

I use a double uni-knot for backing and a double surgeons knot to attach leaders to braid. Neither knot is a problem. On backing, it should disappear under the yards and yards of braid you'll layer on top of it. You'll also likely never see the backing. Few fish we catch locally run far.

[bignose]

I like to build up an arbor around the bare spool and then wrap the braid onto this.
This also keeps the braid from spinning and slipping on the spool.
Older metal spools were prone to do this, most newer spools have a small strip on them to prevent this.
You can build this up on your 3000 series reel and only have to use 75-100 yards of line on the reel. Unless you are surf casting with a load of weight, this should be more than enough line.

This works a lot better than a mono underlay. Braid always seemed to wedge itself down into the mono, and jammed things up.

I found that Nashua silicone tape available at Home Depot did the job.
It is self adhesive, but easily comes off the spool afterwards.
You may have to trim the width a little, but it is also very stretchy, and you can pull it as you wrap to make it fit.

I do not recommend electrical tape, as that leaves a sticky residue and doesn't hold up well.


You should be able to use a 1000 series reel for snakeheads. You will have to occasionally use your fingers to "palm the spool" to provide additional drag.
The only fish that really make long runs are Cow Nosed Rays, and on light tackle I'd recommend pointing the rod at the fish, applying pressure to the spool and breaking off.

[john from md]

I have built up the arbor on my spools with the electrical friction tape. I rarely ever see it once the braid is installed until I change the line. If I have to take the tape off, it peels off easily and a little Brake Cleaner cleans any residue that is left.

[Slackdaddy]

Thanks for all the ideas guys,,
I'll pick up some silicon tape to build up the spool prior to putting line on.

Good to know the 1000 series will hold up, I have 2 I really like.

Thanks,
Slack

[Slobber Bob]

Every reel I have that I have braid on has mono backing. It'll never give you a problem so long as you have enough braid on top that you aren't casting it off down to the mono.

[summersoff]

You don’t want to underspool your reel for you will greatly decrease your casting distance. As others have said, just load up on mono and top off with a 150 yards of 10-20#. Just do a uni to uni for the mono to braid, which is probably the easiest. That 1000 probably doesn’t want anything over 12, I have 6# on my Saros 1000, and it has yet to break on a fish.
But you’re right, braid can get expensive. Have you tried KastKing? I know it gets a bad rap here and there, but I know a number of experienced guys who swear by it.

[john from md]

I use Kast kIng and have never had a problem with it. I have yellow on my 1000 President and Green on my 3000 President. The 10 pound test on the 1000 has been tested by several heavy fish and a few stubborn snags and it holds pretty damn well.

[Mark]

Another way to save money on braid is to reverse it. I did that last year on my reels. It's a bit time consuming to make the transfer -- emptying a spool and filling it from another. But the majority of the braid never sees daylight when it's spooled. That line is pristine, still maintains its original color and has a lot of life in it.

[john from md]

I have done this too. The best thing to do is to strip it off into a box as it doesn't get tangled that way. It's a good thing to do while watching the boob tube.