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  • Riggin a BKD on a Jighead(More of a Collar size ??)

    Hey fellas,
    This season I have tried to get a little more into LTJ. I left my old job this year and got enough cash to score a Carrot Stix which I use for most of my LTJ. It's a beast. But at any rate, I have just started using BKD's to target Stripers. While they have worked on Fluke and Stripers, I am wondering if the sized jighead I am using(the collar) is too big. I picked up some of Spankin' Stripers Jig Heads and I see that the collar is HUGE. SO big that when I rig my BKD it ripped it. It's a lot bigger than the Bass Assasin ones that I have, but they aren't triangular. Am I rigging them wrong? Or should I got with a brand that has a smaller collar and save these for 10" BKDs? Here are some pics of what I am talking about.

    Size of the Collar vs the BKD:



    The tear(I know it's not straight ):



    The bulge:


    Thanks!
    MYT

  • #2
    MYT,

    I tend to not use BKDs just for that reason. I also dont like that they are not a solid piece of plastic(or less then some of the others). I tend to use the saltwater BA's and if im running really short and happen to pass anglers, I will pickup there cheap version with a forked tail. I somewhat prefer to use the angler version now, because they tend to be a little beefier in the body and will hold the plastic better. The only BKD's that I will use are the really long ones 11 or 12" I think. Those seem to stay on well, but to be honest the jighead looks lost!

    BTW I go real cheap on jigs and by the ones from walmart that are like 5 for 3.50- I loose them to much to buy good ones!
    Keith
    2012 Hobie Pro Angler 14

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    • #3
      Looks ok to me. Put a drop of super glue where it's ripped and it should hold... maybe.

      On a related note, I'd say that jighead is a bit heavy for a 6"... good size for a 10" BKD, as you suggested. I would go with a slightly lighter head and the collar would also be smaller. But if you need to go deep in strong current, you may indeed need the extra weight.
      Mike S.
      Hobie Outback
      Chesapeake Bay Kayak Anglers
      3D Printed Hobie Hatch Bucket

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      • #4
        Thanks guys,
        Yaker, I got these for a good price, I haven't lost one yet but when I do I know I will be cursing for a few minutes! LOL I don't know if I will buy anymore, but I figure since I got em... might as well use them. I will take a look at the BA's.

        Chexone, yeah it probably is a little overkill... These are 1.5 oz. Unfortunately they don't make lighter ones and I haven't gone to buy any lighter ones. I see that BKD makes some so I might just go with those. I really want to pour my own someday. But living in an apartment and with 2 little ones, I am hesitant on playing with lead.

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        • #5
          I tend to prefer the shad-shaped heads instead of the triangular heads. The shad heads have a smaller collar. I can say that I've never had a problem with BKDs sliding down the hook. One trick for that kind of jighead you've got is to cut the nose of the BKD down a bit so that it doesn't split, but then it's slightly shorter. Alternatively, you can cut down the collar.

          I use cheaper heads, too. I bought a bunch of unpainted ones from a guy on tidalfish and just added some eye stickers. Seems good enough.
          Yellow Hobie Revo Rube Goldberg
          Yellow Tarpon 120

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          • #6
            Thanks Bill! I'm gonna try a pair of wire cutters when I get home to see if I can trim down that bottom barb on the collar. I'll have to play with it to see how it affects the holding power.

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            • #7
              Every winter at the fishing shows I buy various bags and boxes of items. The photo below shows some jigheads I bought that were not poured to include the full amount of lead on the shank; they are also missing the little side protrusions that help to hold the plastic in place. Personally, I don't like them as well as some of the other jigheads I have, but they would help with your problem of splitting the BKDs.

              I think these are 1/2-oz to 3/4-oz size. I will sell them for 50 cents each or $5 for the whole lot of 12. If interested, I can bring them on Fri evening to the opening ceremonies for the tournament.

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              John Veil
              Annapolis
              Native Watercraft Manta Ray 11, Falcon 11

              Author - "Fishing in the Comfort Zone" , "Fishing Road Trip - 2019", "My Fishing Life: Two Years to Remember", and "The Way I Like to Fish -- A Kayak Angler's Guide to Shallow Water, Light Tackle Fishing"

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              • #8
                i generally use the bkd jigheads. at least i think that's what they are. they're sort of weight, color-coded by eye color but the main reason i get them is their hooks are sharper than the other brand next to them. i have had them split the bkd but only if left sitting rigged for a long time.

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                • #9
                  Although I've never tried it, you can put some fast drying glue to old the plastic on the jig head.
                  Hobie PA 12

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                  • #10
                    I don't much like the triangular heads. I use mostly bullet or standup type heads, depending on the fishing that I am doing. I, as others, don't much like the protrusions. You can simply clip them off with sidecutters. I also like the Zman tails, made with elaztec (spell?). I always keep some super glue in my box. If you find a tail won't stay on, just use a dab of super glue, and slide the tail up over the glue. The elastic effect of the Zman holds up better than most regular rubber tails. It comes down to buying the heads to fit the tails that you are going to buy. I also use Saltwater Assassin tails. You may also like the heads with just a rounded collar.
                    Last edited by DOGFISH; 09-05-2012, 06:39 PM.

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                    • #11
                      +1^ Man, now come scented. hogy too

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                      • #12
                        Gotcha Dogfish... I found some lighter ones in my tackle box I am gonna try. Surfdog, I have some of the BIG Hogy's, I want to get some of the 6" packs, but I just haven't dropped the dimes.

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                        • #13
                          MTYM,

                          I use 2, 3, 4 and 6 inch plastic bkds, curly tails, and shad on different sized jigheads. Sometimes the plastic splits. Sometimes the plastic is a bit big on the jig. Sometimes the plastic has fish bite "battle scars." Sometimes the nice painted jigs are chipped and beat up. I still use them, and they all still catch fish (e.g., croaker, blue, sea bass, speck, weakfish, flounder, redfish, toad, perch, striper). I've even caught fish with half the plastic body gone. I've caught small fish on big jigs and bigger fish on small jigs.

                          I also used different heads (e.g., triangular, ball, torpeedo shape). Painted and unpainted too. Again, they all caught fish. So, it's a personal preference thing. Although I've bought "better" jigs (e.g. nice painted finish, big eyes), I usually buy cheaper jigs (e.g., Kalins, stuff from Walmart, Ocean Logic, Hurricane, stuff from flea markets) because I loose a bunch and they're cheap. The "better" ones (like the painted ones with eyes) work well, but the eye-less unpainted one also work too.

                          I'm not saying to use damaged plastic. Just saying you'll be surprised on what you can catch with jigs/plastic that "don't look right."

                          Veil,
                          Those are ugly jigs, but I'll take the whole thing anyway. We'll exchange goods at the Awards ceremony.
                          Last edited by tufnik; 09-05-2012, 07:42 PM.
                          2015 Hobie Outback (yellow)
                          2011 Hobie Outback (yellow)
                          2009 OK Prowler Trident 13 Angler (orange)

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                          • #14
                            [QUOTE=tufnik;43699

                            Veil,
                            Those are ugly jigs, but I'll take the whole thing anyway. We'll exchange goods at the Awards ceremony.[/QUOTE]

                            Tufnik -

                            I will attend the Fri night opening ceremony but cannot stay and fish on Sat. As I recall, you are not coming until Sat morning. We can figure out some way to make the transfer.
                            John Veil
                            Annapolis
                            Native Watercraft Manta Ray 11, Falcon 11

                            Author - "Fishing in the Comfort Zone" , "Fishing Road Trip - 2019", "My Fishing Life: Two Years to Remember", and "The Way I Like to Fish -- A Kayak Angler's Guide to Shallow Water, Light Tackle Fishing"

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                            • #15
                              I may have missed it but how heavy of a jig should I use on the bay. Ive heard "heavy enough to hold it on the bottom". That is kinda subjective I think. If I'm drifting I just want it to stay on the bottom long enough to bounce along the bottom as i'm "Jigging" the rod up and down, correct. I think I'm doing it right just not sure now after reading some of this. Maybe someone can give me a lesson on Friday or Saturday at the CBKA Tourny.
                              Tom Brown
                              Pro Staff: Balloon FisherKing, Catch 5 Baits, Century Rods, Smith Optics.
                              2012 Hobie PA 14'
                              Ocean Kayak Tident 13
                              2012, 2014, 2015, CBKA Tournament 1st place Crab Div.

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