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  • Makes me Yak and not the good way

    If the commies can't respect the resource then it's time to make the Striper a game fish ..........

    THis is a way of life and it's a close knit community and everybody knows everybody's business ......... notice no waterman has turned these scumbags in .........

    http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2011/0...poaching-case/

  • #2
    This is sickening. I hope the honest commercial fisherman ban together to route out the poachers. Its costing them money now as well. I wonder how many more nets are out there? These poachers have some balls placing more nets in the same area as the last bust. Someone knows whats going on. Time for them to step up.

    Unreal.

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    • #3
      They need to do a stakeout the next time they find one of these nets.
      Digital Livewell

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      • #4
        This is what I posted on the Sun's website.

        "Until striped bass is made a gamefish, this type of poaching is going to happen. These poachers are like roaches, if you catch one then there are probably 10 more that you don’t catch. Remember, these poachers need to land the fish and need to sell the illegal fish. Soneone in the commercial trade knows what is going on. The commercial fisherman know what is going on and are not turning the poachers in to authorities. Sportfisherman don’t have nets like that. If the striped bass is not made a gamefish then you will need to up the enforcement, as there is money to be made off of illegal fishing. If funds or taxes are to be raised for such enforcement then tax or levy the commercial fishman, as it is their brethren who are doing the illegal fishing. The commercial fishing trade is a disgrace."


        It does little good for us to grumble among ourselves, in addition, start writing in the public web sources or call to news organizations.

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        • #5
          they've tried that but it's kind of hard to hide in an open bay and these guys seem to inform each other where the limited DNR forces are ......... that's why the DNR put tracking devices on the repeat offenders boats ........ that's probably why so many poachers have been caught lately .......... it's probably also why the poachers started checking the bottom of their boats and found tracking devices ......... because they couldn't figure out how so many were getting caught ......... think about it ...... why would a waterman check the bottom of his boat in the middle of winter with water temps in the low 30's ......... to try to figure out how they were getting caught .........

          It's time to stiffen the fines and penalty's ........ TAKE THE BOAT !!!!! ...... revoke their licenses PERMANENTLY and make them change professions ........ or go to jail for years .........

          Time to break the wink wink nod nod way of life .......

          DNR seems to have had enough and is now talking about changing the watermans percentage of the take ...........

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          • #6
            Thats right, fisheries boards figure in bycatch and discard. Now they should figure in illegal catch percentages into the commercial catch. I know, if I get caught with an illegal striper, the fine would hurt, big time. The poachers should have their boats taken, anything aquired with illegal funds taken, trucks taken and be banned from ever holding a commercial fishing license or working in the commercial fishing trade. All of this, in addition to jail time. Their crime is one of intent.

            I just can't speak strongly enough about this.

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            • #7
              it would be a good idea to put a tracking device i some of the fish after they find the net then leave it and when it moves track them down. how long did it take for those other poachers to be caught, 5 years, too long

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              • #8
                Write Now

                This is why we need to speak out, other than in our own little community. These are the views that we face. These are just a few of the comments in response to my comment on the Sun Paper web site. http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2011/0...poaching-case/


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                It is these attitudes that hurt the sportfisherman. I wrote under my own name and under Annapolis.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by surfdog View Post
                  it would be a good idea to put a tracking device i some of the fish after they find the net then leave it and when it moves track them down. how long did it take for those other poachers to be caught, 5 years, too long
                  THAT is a GREAT idea!! The technology exists...

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                  • #10
                    It's funny how people find a way to defend illegal activity.
                    Digital Livewell

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                    • #11
                      Don- here is a petition I signed up for. I've found it is better not to argue with fools about these things as it tends to only upset me more and the only result is making that jackwagon on the other end feel like he 'taught' me something because all sane, rational, and logical points I made are no contest to his idiotic and twisted rants. That's about all I'm going to say about that.

                      http://publictrustproject.org/enviro...sh-in-the-sea/

                      Better to put momentum into a larger group that can raise more awareness than I can and do so in a way that is more civil than the inevitable dispute with anonymous internet characters. I applaud your effort though and I hope the readers that see it can tell the difference.
                      Used to fish more.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by the_kegs View Post
                        It's funny how people find a way to defend illegal activity.
                        This is the line communicated from their trade associations, as to how to spin the problem. The one thing about the internet is that I can respond more easily than with print media. From what I hear that is now their party line, that the sportfisherman poaches too, just a few fish at a time. What BS. I need to write, it is my way of getting it out.

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                        • #13
                          This is a line taken by one of the guys on TidalFish. I wonder how many people would buy commercially caught (wildcaught) striped bass, rockfish, if they new about the consumption advisory on rockfish:

                          Atlantic Coastal States Issue Joint Advisory to Protect Public Health

                          BALTIMORE (June 6, 2009) The Maryland Department of the Environment (MDE), in coordination with other eastern coastal states, issued a fish consumption advisory Wednesday to cover striped bass and bluefish caught through recreational fishing in Atlantic coastal waters.

                          The Department advises that striped bass and bluefish caught through recreational fishing in Atlantic coastal waters should not be eaten by sensitive populations such as pregnant women, women of childbearing age, nursing mothers, and children six years of age and younger. The general population should eat no more than one meal (eight ounces per adult and three ounces per child) per month of striped bass, and one meal every other month of bluefish.

                          Bluefish over 20 inches and large migratory striped bass tend to contain higher levels of polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs), a banned substance that is classified as a neurotoxin and a probable human carcinogen. Because levels at which PCBs are found in these popular fish are of concern to MDE, the Agency is taking this action.

                          “This effort reflects the benefits of cooperation across state lines to protect public health,” said MDE’s Science Services Director Rich Eskin. “To protect public health, MDE will monitor PCB levels in coastal marine striped bass and bluefish, and we will update consumption advisories as needed.”

                          Other states issuing similar advisories include: Maine, Connecticut, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, New Jersey and Delaware. These advisories are based on a 2008 report by the Eastern Coastal Striped Bass and Bluefish Consumption Advisory Workgroup. In an effort to develop consistent advisories for striped bass and bluefish caught in eastern coastal waters, the Workgroup evaluated methods used by states for developing consumption advisories regarding PCB concentration in striped bass and bluefish from Maine to Georgia.

                          The Department continually updates fish consumption advisories to reflect new data. For the latest information, go to http://www.mde.maryland.gov/Citizens...home/index.asp.

                          Source: Maryland Department of the Environment (MDE)

                          These are the same fish as are caught by recreational fisherman. That is the debate. I guess they make this about recreational anglers so that the advisory will not have to be posted in markets. What if that were the case? I may have to cut back on how much rockfish I eat.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by jffoley View Post
                            THAT is a GREAT idea!! The technology exists...
                            They can also do as they do in Alaska. There are video cameras on board commercial fishing vessels that turn on anytime the fishing equipment is activated for fishing. The cameras would be controlled by DNR. They are supposed to be tamper proof. That way catch limits are monitored. They would also record when fishing is being done at night.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Redfish12 View Post
                              Don- here is a petition I signed up for.
                              http://publictrustproject.org/enviro...sh-in-the-sea/

                              Better to put momentum into a larger group that can raise more awareness than I can and do so in a way that is more civil than the inevitable dispute with anonymous internet characters. I applaud your effort though and I hope the readers that see it can tell the difference.
                              This is a no brainer, guys. I am really distressed by the plight of the bay and its residents; be it striped bass, menhaden, oysters, blue crabs or bay grasses. Everyone that cares about those things should seriously consider signing.

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