Makes me Yak and not the good way

[jffoley]

They can also do as they do in Alaska. There are video cameras on board commercial fishing vessels that turn on anytime the fishing equipment is activated for fishing. The cameras would be controlled by DNR. They are supposed to be tamper proof. That way catch limits are monitored. They would also record when fishing is being done at night.

I wonder why such things are NOT a part of the discussion?!?? Politics, anyone?

[Memory Maker]

THAT is a GREAT idea!! The technology exists...

Again ...... he DNR is being watched by the scumbags and reported on ........ the net would not be picked up if they thought they would get caught .........

[surfdog]

that health advisory has been out for a few years, i only eat 1 or 2 a year, give the some to family most go back to be caught again. favorite size for rock is 20-23" best eating imho

[DOGFISH]

Again ...... he DNR is being watched by the scumbags and reported on ........ the net would not be picked up if they thought they would get caught .........

They know that things are hot right now. They are not going to check those nets now. Some have even called police about the tracking devices found on their boats. They called police reporting a bomb.

I spent most of last night writing to the WJZ website, here and tidalfish. I think I upset a few commercial guys. Hey, their party line seems to be that recreational angers poach too, only a few fish at a time, and no body checks the recreational anglers. They attempt to say that recreational poaching amount to more that commercial poaching. They actually attempt to justify or to rationalize their own actions. They just don't understand that the bay is dying and dying fast. I watched this same thing happen before the collapse of striper fishing in the late 70s and early 80s. If you read between the lines the commercial guys essentially admit that poaching is part of doing business and making a living. Read what some of the commercial guys wrote last night on the WJZ website. It is a classic example of the mirror image. They see everyone else as they see themselves. They are pathological.

I applaud the petition, but the resolution is going to have to be political. It will take organization and money to fight money. Neither you or I like the system, but it is the one that we have, and the waterman have learned to use it sucessfully to their advantage. Everyone should join a fishing organization that is taking on these issues, be it MSSA or CCA. I may not agree with all of their tactics, but it is a move in the right direction. Due to some of the president's opinions about gamefish status for rockfish, of the CCA, I believe the MSSA may be the better choice at this time.

You also need to vote for the bay in elections. This will be a long hard fight. For too long this poaching and overfishing has been treated as business as usual.

Even our little group, we could all sign our own petition and send it to the governor and the Atalntic Coast Fisheries Commision. While this issue is hot, the recreationals need to make some ground on this issue. Some of you younger guys may not be able to fish for rockfish in the future. It has happened before. I can tell you it is a sad thing to see. Other states have been so sucessful in managing their fisheries, like Florida and Louisiana. With no nets, the stocks of redfish, snook and seatrout have flourished. The State of Maryland needs to wake up about conserving the Chesapeake Bay. It is being used a nothing more than a ditch for sewage. Do not shy away from these people. When they attempt to spread the BS, it needs to be countered. I found and posted some very interesting things on the WJZ website last night, some of it on here. I kept going back an writing under different names. Would anyone even buy rockfish if they knew there was a health advisory about wild caught rockfish. That needs to be made known. No commercial market, no need to commercially catch the rockfish.

Imagine how much sportfishing money would be spent if the fishing for stripers was good in the bay. Just suppose it was like redfish in Louisiana. People would flock to the bay and fish. When I had my boat, I used to be able to go out during openning week of rockfish season and catch several fish 40 inches or over, with numerous fish in the 30s. I release all large fish, as they are the future of the fish stocks. Besides the smaller resident fish, which are mostly males, are better eating anyway.

Anyway, I have had my say about this once again.

[surfdog]

i agree with you all the way, i remember how good the fishing was when i was a kid and the collapse of the rock fish and moratorium. i dont think mssa or cca are doing enough, or have even heard any comments from them about these problems. i still think its time for the big tackle companies to step up and back some opposition to the commercial interests and help get netting stopped

[DOGFISH]

that health advisory has been out for a few years, i only eat 1 or 2 a year, give the some to family most go back to be caught again. favorite size for rock is 20-23" best eating imho

Yea, I have always liked mine around 22 to 25. The meat is sweater.

[Grady-Black]

that health advisory has been out for a few years, i only eat 1 or 2 a year, give the some to family most go back to be caught again. favorite size for rock is 20-23" best eating imho

Yeah I like the young ones too, these old girls don't taste that good! Lol



GB

[Memory Maker]

i agree with you all the way, i remember how good the fishing was when i was a kid and the collapse of the rock fish and moratorium. i dont think mssa or cca are doing enough, or have even heard any comments from them about these problems. i still think its time for the big tackle companies to step up and back some opposition to the commercial interests and help get netting stopped

I agree with everything that Dogfish said too except for MSSA being the best choice. First it was the CCA that lead much of the fight in Florida and much of the Gulf states for the redfish. It was the President of the MSSA and the MSSA leadership that sold the fishermen down the river with the fishing lic increase so Windley would be put on the Advisory council. He did it in such away that the matching funds that were promised as part of the bill was deleted from the bill at the last moment. Windley knew it and pushed for it so he would have personal clout. It was a BIG mess a couple of years ago. Also the MSSA is hypocritical, they helped push thru the regulations on the catch and return season and helped block stuff (i think) that would have cut into their profits of their big time tournaments. MSSA defends their own interests before the interests of the fishermen and the stocks. How can you sponsor tournaments that catches a LOT of the cows mostly just after and sometimes before they spawn and then support and promote regs that restrict catch and return ....... saying it will help preserve the stocks ...........
Not sponsoring a tournament will save much more than the C&R

CCA is the best in my opinion ..........

[DOGFISH]

That's alright, just be thankful surfdog and me throw some of the young ones back, so you guys can have some of those old fat ladies. We have probably already caught those fish before.

[DOGFISH]

I agree with everything that Dogfish said too except for MSSA being the best choice. First it was the CCA that lead much of the fight in Florida and much of the Gulf states for the redfish. It was the President of the MSSA and the MSSA leadership that sold the fishermen down the river with the fishing lic increase so Windley would be put on the Advisory council. He did it in such away that the matching funds that were promised as part of the bill was deleted from the bill at the last moment. Windley knew it and pushed for it so he would have personal clout. It was a BIG mess a couple of years ago. Also the MSSA is hypocritical, they helped push thru the regulations on the catch and return season and helped block stuff (i think) that would have cut into their profits of their big time tournaments. MSSA defends their own interests before the interests of the fishermen and the stocks. How can you sponsor tournaments that catches a LOT of the cows mostly just after and sometimes before they spawn and then support and promote regs that restrict catch and return ....... saying it will help preserve the stocks ...........
Not sponsoring a tournament will save much more than the C&R

CCA is the best in my opinion ..........

The current president of CCA, if it is still the same guy, don't know their term of office, falls short of supporting gamefish status for striped bass. Though they are against netting. Like I said, I may not agree with everything the organizations do, as they are political also, but fisherman should join some organization that supports sportsfisherman. Just do your research and pick one of your liking. It is the only way our voices will be heard in the legislatures.

[DOGFISH]

Memory, I must agree, there is nothing worse than watching some one butchering one of those large spring fish and see a belly full of eggs come out on the cleanning table. That is one of the problems, there are fewer and fewer of the larger spawning fish. That is why some day there may be a slot limit on stripped bass. Hey that may tic some people off, but it is a way to protect the spawning population. Besides the smaller fish of most, if not all species, contain less contaminants.

[Redfish12]

Gamefish, a slot limit, and bunker in the bay would make for incredible fishing!

I think I just saw a flying pig!!!

I wish that would happen one day, look how it is working out for redfish!

[DOGFISH]

Gamefish, a slot limit, and bunker in the bay would make for incredible fishing!

I think I just saw a flying pig!!!

I wish that would happen one day, look how it is working out for redfish!

I know, I know, I think is say the same pig! It must be winter.

[Memory Maker]

Memory, I must agree, there is nothing worse than watching some one butchering one of those large spring fish and see a belly full of eggs come out on the cleanning table. That is one of the problems, there are fewer and fewer of the larger spawning fish. That is why some day there may be a slot limit on stripped bass. Hey that may tic some people off, but it is a way to protect the spawning population. Besides the smaller fish of most, if not all species, contain less contaminants.

Yep ......... could be ......... but I guarantee you there will be restrictions every which way to Sunday EXCEPT for MSSA tournaments .......

They will defend them till the very last fish in the bay is caught ...........
They promoted the catch and return restrictions and defended the catch and kill big fish tournaments here and the winter one south.

As far as the gamefish for stripers, It's a good goal but you can't just go for it and get it done ........ usually has to be done in small steps ........ one is going on now ...... change in attitude of the DNR and the beginning of the awareness in the courts ..........

CCA didn't get the gamefish for Redfish on the 1st try ....... took many years ...... must be a change in attitude .........

Shoot ......... if the poachers stopped poaching and the MSSA didn't kill tons in tournaments then you would proapably have enough for everyone .....

[surfdog]

i thought there was a slot limit; 18 to 28 with 1 being over 28", sounds like my GFs

hey GB how did you photo shop your head on that guys body?