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    I spent the past week in Florida fishing with two different kayak guides - one on each coast. Mark, John Rentch, and I fished on the east coast (in Indian River and Mosquito Lagoon) on Tues and Wed with Dee Kaminski of Reel Kayak Fishing. The bite was slow there both days. Due to the failure of a National Park Service employee to open a key access gate, we could not fish at our planned location on Tues. The alternate location was not highly productive. Strong winds on Wed clouded the shallow flats where we were and turned off the fish. We were scheduled to fish again on Thurs, but the winds were even stronger that day. The guide cancelled that trip. I managed to catch one nice 20" speckled trout and a tiny redfish on Tues.

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    Mark and John can add their own commentary and photos. The next day they headed home, but I drove across the state to Tampa to fish with my usual kayak guide -- Neil Taylor of Strike Three Kayak Fishing. Although the winds were howling on Fri, Neil knew a spot where we could anchor and drop live shrimp onto a rock pile. Despite rough conditions, I managed to catch 7 strong sheepshead. At 16" and several pounds weight, these were the largest sheepshead I had ever caught.

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    Neil does not normally use live bait for his clients, but he felt that shrimp would offer better opportunities given the high winds and cold water. We fished shrimp again on Sat on a rock pile in a different location. This spot also produced sheepshead, but added five other species too (porgy, lizardfish, gag grouper, pufferfish, and squirrel fish ).

    For our final day, we fished a series of docks using shrimp. The shrimp were rigged on small circle hooks with a split shot a few inches up the line. I anchored up and dropped the shrimp to the bottom in 7-12 ft depth and held it still on a tight line. As soon as I felt any change in pressure, I set the hook. These fish are quite good at bait stealing. I missed quite a few, but by the third day I caught plenty too. We finished up before a large storm moved into the area. I caught nearly 30 sheepshead, 5 gag groupers, and 3 pufferfish on Sun morning. I had a great time catching some fish I do not normally get in that area.

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    John Veil
    Annapolis
    Native Watercraft Manta Ray 11, Falcon 11

    Author - "Fishing in the Comfort Zone" , "Fishing Road Trip - 2019", "My Fishing Life: Two Years to Remember", and "The Way I Like to Fish -- A Kayak Angler's Guide to Shallow Water, Light Tackle Fishing"

  • #2
    John,

    Glad to hear the luck improved! What size tackle rod/reel/line were you targeting the sheepshead?
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    • #3
      We used the same gear we use for casting on the flats. 7' medium power, fast action St Croix Inshore Avid rods, Daiwa Ballistic reels in 2500 size, braid (I think it is 15-lb Tufline), and a leader (I do not know the strength of the leader). The hook was an offset circle hook roughly the size of a dime. That setup was easily enough for fish of that size.
      John Veil
      Annapolis
      Native Watercraft Manta Ray 11, Falcon 11

      Author - "Fishing in the Comfort Zone" , "Fishing Road Trip - 2019", "My Fishing Life: Two Years to Remember", and "The Way I Like to Fish -- A Kayak Angler's Guide to Shallow Water, Light Tackle Fishing"

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      • #4
        Congrats on the sheep! They sure are quite adept at nibbling bait right of the hook. And you never can tell how big they are they hit so lightly sometimes until you set the hook and it doubles your rod over.
        Brian

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        • #5
          Congratulations John! Any trip you get to catch a new specie(s) is always a successful one.
          -manny

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          • #6
            As John Veil said, John Rentch and I joined him on the east coast portion of the trip. It was frustrating to say the least...from dealing with the government shutdown to the weather, it was indeed my least enjoyable trip to FL. I never sensed we were on the water with catchable fish. I'm sure you've all had that feeling at one time or another. It has happened to me locally in the Chesapeake. It's less tolerable when you travel 1,000 miles to fish! Not that I'm crying the blues. After this miserable Maryland January, it was good to merely be paddling somewhere. But certainly, the Space Coast of FL did not meet any of our expectations.

            The three of us fished the first two days in the Indian River Lagoon. Wind was a factor each day but something unseen and unfelt played a larger role. Something put the fish down. The barometer perhaps, or FL's recent cold snaps. Even though it was near 70 degrees each day we fished, I suspect the fish were subdued by lingering the effects of the cold or changing air pressure. Whatever it was something was wrong when three experienced kayak anglers caught only six fish between them in a combined 33 hours on the water.

            I actually hooked up first. I got a small speckled trout to hit a Heddon Spook Jr. in bone color. Our guide, Dee Kaminski who tried very hard to find fish for us wanted to take a photo. But I told her it wasn't worth the pixels. I wanted a bigger fish. I caught another speck slightly larger on the Spook shortly thereafter but still not worth a photo. Then as we were leaving the water on day one (after 5 hours of fishing mind you) I hooked my third speck on the Spook. This one was 14 inches. Still no photo. I expected more fish on day two. That was not to be.

            Here are few photos from day one follow below.

            This was our launch site. You can see we used Native Ultimate 14.5 kayaks:

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            Dee spent a lot of time standing and looking for fish. She never found a school on either day -- just single fish here and there.

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            Here are Dee and the two Johns paddling to the next (unsuccessful) spot.

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            But eventually, John Veil caught a pixel-worthy fish.

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            If you notice the shoreline in the above photo, you'll see lots of dead vegetation. Dee told us that was the residue of last season's hurricane that traveled up the center of the state.

            On day two we entered the Canaveral National Seashore which was forbidden to us on day one by the federal shutdown. He were are at the launch:

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            It was actually our second launch-site of the morning. We had started elsewhere on the Indian River but departed when we got absolutely no bites. Little did we know that that same condition was in store for us at the second site.

            We fished it hard, seeking shelter from the building wind behind various islands. Again, I threw the Heddon topwater Spook all day and got nary a swirl. The two Johns threw soft plastics. Out hope was that either top water or subsurface would work. Neither did. Like my compatriots, I put cast after cast into prime spots under the mangrove branches and worked the lure out. Or I turned around and cast to deeper water. Nothing was interested in our lures.

            Here are few shots of the areas we fished:

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            Notice above the pelicans in the trees behind John Veil. In the second shot Dee was zeroed on a redfish she and John Rentch had spotted. It could not be enticed to bite.

            But the best was yet to come. While we stayed on the lee side of the islands the wind was building. Our trip back to the launch was a hard paddle.

            Here are John Rentch and Dee digging into the heavy water on the ride home:

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            I had mentioned in another thread this week the seaworthiness of the Ultimate 14.5. We put it to the test that day. We paddled 7 miles and much of it was in strong wind and whitecaps. As I mentioned in that other post that the Ultimate has no scuppers but it's a stable boat that traverses the waves very well. It will take on some water but it still tracks true. I've actually been in worse conditions with an Ultimate on the other side of FL. But the Indian River gave the boats and us a very good workout. I was drenched from waves when we got back to the launch.

            So ended our trip, a day earlier than planned because the winds built to even higher levels on the following day.

            Those are the chances you take when you travel to distant site to fish. I'm still glad we went. It was better than staying off the water here. But it was a disappointing trip based on previous successes I have had in the Sunshine State.
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            Mark
            Pasadena, MD


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            • #7
              The highlight of the trip for me was not fishing, but an event that took place at Cape Canaveral Space Center on Wednesday. We were fishing in Eddy Creek (part of the Canaveral National Seashore) about 3+ miles from the launch site. All of a sudden this hugh roar erupted from a landing pad. I actually felt the rumble from the noise. I turned and saw this hugh plume of smoke rising into the sky. We found out later from conservations on the VHF radios we carried that they were testing the Space-X rocket for its launch that happened this past Thursday. Was kind of exciting, can't imagine what a rocket launch would be like.

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              John Rentch
              Annapolis

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              • #8
                John,

                That was indeed the highlight for each of us on the Space Coast!

                Great photo.
                Mark
                Pasadena, MD


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                • #9
                  I spend winters in Florida and summers on Kent Island. Gotta say that fishing conditions in January were absolutely terrible the whole month with rain, wind, and cold days throughout the month. But, Feb is off to a good start with mild temps and calm winds - went out in the yak yesterday on Charlotte Harbor and had a good day catching spotted trout on artificials. Looking forward to some good fishing from the yak when I get back to Kent Island in the spring.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by tarponguy View Post
                    I spend winters in Florida and summers on Kent Island. Gotta say that fishing conditions in January were absolutely terrible the whole month with rain, wind, and cold days throughout the month. But, Feb is off to a good start with mild temps and calm winds - went out in the yak yesterday on Charlotte Harbor and had a good day catching spotted trout on artificials. Looking forward to some good fishing from the yak when I get back to Kent Island in the spring.
                    Glad to hear your February is starting off well.

                    Enjoy those specks. They can be great fun.

                    I look forward to meeting you in MD.
                    Mark
                    Pasadena, MD


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                    • #11
                      That looks like some fun fishing. My ultimate goal is to move to the West Coast of Florida some day.
                      MOC a.k.a. "Machburner the Crab Whisperer"
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                      • #12
                        Hey Mark, back from Florida and looking forward to learning about kayak fishing in Maryland. Have read several books on the subject - I live in Chester on the Eastern Shore and new to the area so I have lots to learn. If you or any of your pals ever get over this way and wouldn't mind letting a newbie tag along I'd be very grateful. I have a slayer propel and plenty of gear - just need to figure a few things out !!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by tarponguy View Post
                          Hey Mark, back from Florida and looking forward to learning about kayak fishing in Maryland. Have read several books on the subject - I live in Chester on the Eastern Shore and new to the area so I have lots to learn. If you or any of your pals ever get over this way and wouldn't mind letting a newbie tag along I'd be very grateful. I have a slayer propel and plenty of gear - just need to figure a few things out !!
                          tarponguy,

                          Sounds like you're all dressed up for the dance. Let's see if we can find you a date.

                          My buddies and I launch at Goodhands Creek which is certainly close to you. Typically we start later in the summer and fish it through the fall. But given that the Severn is playing fickle with us this year, we will likely visit Goodhands sooner. I will send you a PM invitation when we go.
                          Mark
                          Pasadena, MD


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                          • #14
                            Mark,

                            Thanks for the note and I look forward to tagging along with you guys when you get over my way. I may venture out on my own in the next week or so if the weather improves and try some of the tactics I read about in Alan Batista's book. I know there are several launch sites in addition to Goodhands Creek - any other spots you think I should try in the meantime?? Tight lines !!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by tarponguy View Post
                              Mark,

                              Thanks for the note and I look forward to tagging along with you guys when you get over my way. I may venture out on my own in the next week or so if the weather improves and try some of the tactics I read about in Alan Batista's book. I know there are several launch sites in addition to Goodhands Creek - any other spots you think I should try in the meantime?? Tight lines !!
                              You're probably familiar with these landings but if not:

                              http://www.parksnrec.org/hiker-biker...andings-piers/

                              Note also that you'll need a permit for your vehicle or trailer at these landings. County officials do peruse them regularly and will ticket those without permits.

                              We'll be in touch soon.
                              Mark
                              Pasadena, MD


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