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Originally posted by jbrown View PostLast year at Conowingo on the last day of April I caught several Hickories and two very large American shad. The water was literally boiling with fish... but as suggested above I was snagging large Gizzard shad by the dozen- Several were 12-14 inches and nearly two pounds- A great fight. I really wanted to keep several to freeze and later use for cut bait/ cat fishing at Fletchers. But my understanding is that it is highly illegal to keep these Gizzard shad as well- I know you cannot keep or net any of the blue back herring etc...that come up swimming between your feet. But can you keep the Gizzard? Ironically the MD DNR pamphlet that you get with your fishing license mentions every other species than the Gizzard for these stated waters?- Can someone clarify?Mike
Pro Angler 14 "The Grand Wazoo"
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Might be a dumb question on here, by why are yall trying to catch them? Arent they illegal to keep? Is it just a good fight? Ive never targeted any shadNative Watercraft Pro Staff
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Originally posted by D3NAL1 View PostMight be a dumb question on here, by why are yall trying to catch them? Arent they illegal to keep? Is it just a good fight? Ive never targeted any shad
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Camo 2014 OK Trident Ultra 4.7
Blue 2015 Ascend FS12T
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I've never fished for shad, but it sounds like lots of fun.
Any tips on how to rig up my gear?
Also, what's their preferred habitat - shallow? deep? weedy? rocky? etc...
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Originally posted by baitball View PostI've never fished for shad, but it sounds like lots of fun.
Any tips on how to rig up my gear?
Also, what's their preferred habitat - shallow? deep? weedy? rocky? etc...
A piece of info that I found helpful last time... if launching from Fletchers and cartopping. There is a low bridge passing with only about 7 foot clearance to the entrance of the larger boathouse parking lot. So if you're cartopping you'll have to park in the outside, satellite parking and walk up. Its a decent distance.Last edited by jsnyd86; 03-14-2016, 11:20 AM.-Jon
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I did okay last year with my UL setup. With 6lb line I could launch that shad dart. I didn't catch any hickories but I caught plenty of Americans around this size. So much fun
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My shad set up is as follows:
I use a 7' light action rod and a 2500 series Shimano reel that is spooled with 10 pound Suffix Orange braid.
I use 10 pound test mono as my leader material.
You can go lighter, but you'll lose a lot of darts on the bottom, and have a problem when you get a double header, two fish on at once, in current.
The Suffix line is rated at 10 pounds, but actually breaks at 18.
I have used a 1000 series reel, but like the extra line capacity the 2500 offers.
I use some home made shad darts, 1/8 oz. and 1/16 oz. The weights are determined by the current speed and depth, but this is my starting point. The Susky tends to be shallower, the Potomac near Fletcher's Boathouse is deeper.
I prefer bright green chartreuse, sometimes bright pink is the hot ticket. The shad will let you know.
The darts are fished in a modified tandem rig. The lighter dart is on a longer leader, usually about 2 feet long, and the heavier dart is tied to a 12-18" leader.
I attach the leaders to a smallish split ring that is looped onto the braided line. I used to use a swivel, but this is not needed with braid. The braid is not as affected by line twist like mono is.
Shad like current and rocky areas and I try to find channels and funnels where the fish have to go thru to move upstream. I cast straight out at 90 degrees (casting upstream will get you hung on the bottom), and allow the lures to swing downstream. Then a steady retrieve. Most strikes happen as the lures straightens out or on the retrieve.
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IMG_0158.jpgLast edited by bignose; 03-14-2016, 02:09 PM.
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Originally posted by jsnyd86 View PostI'm certainly no expert, ultralight gear with shad darts is pretty cut and dry and I think what most tend to use. Find a nice spot and cast perpendicular to the river and let the dart swing into the current. I've always found them suspended so different weights will help, some even use a tandem shad dart rig and mess around with different colors.
A piece of info that I found helpful last time... if launching from Fletchers and cartopping. There is a low bridge passing with only about 7 foot clearance to the entrance of the larger boathouse parking lot. So if you're cartopping you'll have to park in the outside, satellite parking and walk up. Its a decent distance.
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[QUOTE=sega;127297]I did okay last year with my UL setup. With 6lb line I could launch that shad dart. I didn't catch any hickories but I caught plenty of Americans around this size. So much fun
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Awesome pic of a pretty fish on a kayak...was that at Fletcher's? If so, what's your experience and feedback of navigating those deep waters with its current in April?
I've gone to Fletcher's during the busy shad run and have often thought how it would be like fishing for shad from my Hobie Revo 13. I keep hearing about how treacherous the Fletcher's area can be with high waters and current but then I also see folks out there in kayaks fishing fairly relaxed.
Would love to hear from folks who have tried this at Fletcher's.
Thanks.
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Shad yet?
I've fished there from a kayak once. During a shad run That was maybe 4 years ago now. I was pretty inexperienced then and also used an anchor, which can get hung up pretty easily there.
I've heard of guys spilling but I think common sense prevails in most situations. If you need to go broadside do it quickly, if you use an anchor have a quick release. Don't get too close to chain bridge. The current is too fast to make it up there and turning around can get dicey.
Other than that it's excellent. Closer to the boat house people were vertical jigging WP. There's a good stretch between there and the bridge with calm water.
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Revo 13
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I have fished from rowboat and shore many times at Fletchers. Plan on taking the Yak this year. There is NO reason to pull any heroics and go into the main channel. From the boathouse to 200 yards South there is a shallow shelf. Anchor here within casting distance of the channel. If they are peaking you will catch every few casts no matter where you are or cast. It is wise to pick your day based on water flow. I believe when Little Falls is 5+ feet they don't rent boats. You can get water flow and temp here... http://waterdata.usgs.gov/usa/nwis/uv?site_no=01646500 Bring your UL rod and have a blast.WOOD DUCK 12
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