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    Hello all. I had a good chat with Mr. John Veil at the Pasadena fishing show and mentioned to him that he is the pickerel fishing master according to others on this forum. He gave me some great tips for pickerel and asked me if I were a member of this site (I was not at the time but I throughly enjoyed scrounging through the forum to gather fishing intel) which prompted me to join. So a little about me, I am 21 years old, and am located in the Pasadena/Rivera Beach area. I fish out of a $200 Pelican Boost Angler 100 that I had found on Craigslist and it is my workhorse that proves that you do not need fancy equipment to catch fish. My favorite fish to target are perch and pickerel. I look forward to getting to know many of the members on this site.

    Rock Creek Fishing Report 2/22-2/24, a tale of 2:
    I entered the CCA Pickerel Tournament and so far have only logged 1 fish measured at 25.5 inches. I have caught only a handful of pickerel this winter but almost every single one has been less than 20 inches (except the 25.5 incher). The weather was gorgeous for all three days with temperatures in the low 50's and a light but variable wind. I fished the incoming tide in the evening from 3:30pm or 4pm to about 6pm on each outing. On Saturday, it took some time before I hooked into my first pickerel of the day, on a 1/8 oz shad dart tipped with a minnow. The second pickerel came just a few yards away from my first catch and that was all the action for Saturday. On Sunday evening, I launched at 4:00 pm and paddled less than 5 minutes away to a nearby cove. My first cast was to a spot in between two boat lifts on separate piers that were very close to each other. I felt a slight weight to my line as I watched my rod tip dip and set the hook. It was a small pickerel that was maybe 14 inches or so. That was my last minnow so I switched to a 3 inch yellow perch pattern jerk bait and made a cast to the same exact spot. With one jerk and a pause, I felt a bite and reeled in an even smaller pickerel that was maybe around 12 inches. After throughly working the cove with no luck, it was time to head home. Those were again, my only 2 fish for the evening. Before departing for today's trip, I made a quick stop at Fishbone's Tackle Shop down Mountain Road to get some more minnows. Will Sarvinas gave me some good intel, mentioning that he's been catching pickerel in deeper water, 4 to 7 feet. I went to the same spot where I had caught the 25 inch fish, hoping that his bigger siblings would be around. Again on my first cast, next to a boat lift piling, I hooked into what felt like a 20+ inch fish that was giving a good fight. As I brought him boat side, he looked to be about 18-19 inches. I release him and made a second cast to the same area and hooked up again. This fish also gave me an even better fight, leading me to believe that I had found another 25 incher. I got him close to the boat and what do you know? Another fish that couldn't pass for 20 inches. 2 days in a row, my first 2 casts result in 2 fish, but not the size I'm looking for. I moved on, fishing various shorelines and boat lift pilings but nothing else to show for it. There was another boat fishing with 2 boys, not sure if they caught anything.
    Tim M. Elliott
    Pasadena
    Pelican Boost Angler 100, Garmin Striker 4

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    Hello Tim and welcome to the forum.

    I also live in Pasadena. It's good to hear that you're catching pickerel in our local tidal waters. They vanished about 3 years ago from all our regional tidal waters and only recently returned. Their disappearance and reemergence remains a mystery but it's good news. As you cited, even a sub-20 inch pickerel can give you quite a pull. Plus they leap from the water when hooked on occasion. They're lots of fun and everything you can ask for as a local winter target species.

    Continued success to you.
    Mark
    Pasadena, MD


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    • #3
      Hello Mark, thank you for the welcome.

      Sounds like we live near each other so we should hit the water together sometime. This past fall is the first time in a few years where I've been consistently catching them in Rock Creek. I am pursuing a degree in Fisheries Biology and their disappearance has me very curious. And yes, the fish that I caught on Sunday gave me a thrilling leap.

      I thank you for the wish of success and I hope for you as well to keep on catching.
      Tim M. Elliott
      Pasadena
      Pelican Boost Angler 100, Garmin Striker 4

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      • #4
        Tim - I enjoyed talking with you at the Pasadena Sportfishing show. Pickerel are a wonderful fish to catch in the winter months in our local tidal creeks. Live minnows will interest pickerel, but this winter I have caught plenty of them using paddletails, twister tails, and small crankbaits. Experiment in tackle and locations. For each tidal creek or pond I fish, the pickerel seem to be bunched in just a few stretches of shoreline. Those stretches often look no different to my human eyes, but to the pickerel there is something desirable about them. There is no substitute for trial and error and putting time on the water to learn where those good spots are.

        Your 25.5" pickerel is a monster. In nearly 15 years of pickerel fishing in the Severn River, I never caught one larger than 24". You got yours right away. Congratulations.
        John Veil
        Annapolis
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        • #5
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Tim Elliott View Post
            Hello Mark, thank you for the welcome.

            Sounds like we live near each other so we should hit the water together sometime.
            That would be great. PM me when your schedule allows to make arrangements for that.
            Mark
            Pasadena, MD


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            • #7
              John- it certainly was a pleasure to meet you. You are correct about having to put in your time on the water to find the hotspots. As the saying goes, 90 percent of the fish are in 10 percent of the water. I feel very fortunate to have caught a 25 inch pickerel, they are tough to come around. I saw your post regarding the Pasadena Sportfishing meeting and I will be there, will you have your book for sale as well?

              Thank you for the welcome Grant, I enjoy watching your YouTube videos!

              Mark- Absolutely, I will let you know.
              Tim M. Elliott
              Pasadena
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              • #8
                Welcome Tim...new blood keeps this forum alive and healthy...chain pike are a welcome tug on the end of your line when cold weather has closed down our normal fishery...yellow perch, crappie, blue catfish are on the target list in early spring as are the DNR stocked “put and take” Rainbow and Golden Trout. Best of luck out on the water!
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                • #9
                  Tim,

                  Your 25.5 inch pickerel is a great catch. I have never caught one that big. I consider any pickerel over 20 inches a worthy catch -- when I cannot get my left hand around their body and must resort to fish grips to get them into the kayak. That's a good pickerel catch. My tops is 24 inches. I have caught 4 that size but never in tidal water. I've exceeded 20 inches in tidal waters but rarely. Twenty-two inches is my largest catch in our local tidal waters.

                  This may not be news to you given your academic study, but it takes a long time for a pickerel to exceed 25 inches. The chart below comes from this PA Fish and Boat Commission article: https://www.fishandboat.com/Fish/Pen...Management.pdf

                  Pickerel Growth Chart.jpg

                  (A full-sized version of the chart is in the link.)

                  I could not find a similar study pertaining to MD pickerel. However, I imagine the growth rates depicted above are similar to those in MD waters given we are neighboring states and share some common waters.

                  Your 25.5 inch Rock Creek pickerel was probably between 13 and 15 years old.

                  Nineteen to 20 inch fish and some beyond are now showing up in our tidal waters after they had vanished for nearly 3 years. Yet, they are 6 to 7 years old according to the growth chart. Where were they from 2017 to 2019?

                  And I saw an abundance of 10 to 14 inch pickerel in Severn tributaries starting late last fall. I had a couple of good outings catching them then but I had to downsize my flies to do so. The streamers I normally used for pickerel were too big. Those smaller fish were somewhere between 2 to 4 years old according to the PA chart. They were spawned precisely during the time when we stopped catching their parents.

                  My understanding in talking to more experienced anglers is that what recently happened is not unusual when it comes to pickerel. They go through cycles.

                  I'm glad they're back for the moment. However, if during the course of your studies you can find out why they vanished, I'm certain I am not alone on this forum in learning why.

                  Again, welcome to the forum and to the hobby.
                  Mark
                  Pasadena, MD


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                  • #10
                    Tim,
                    Welcome to our group. You will find lots of great info in past posts both on how/where to fish, but a lot of fishing out of a kayak. I got into this about six years ago and have gotten hooked. I think we communicated with each other regarding the CCA Pickerel Tournament. It was great having to fish on a winter species in this area. They certainly are fun to catch. My largest this winter has been 21.50". Doesn't match your fish, but 21" has a good tug. ]
                    I am looking forward to the warmer weather to change to some panfish in our area, both in local streams and ponds. Since the Rockfish have taken a major hit, these are good alternatives.

                    Hope we can hook up sometime this spring/summer.

                    John
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ronaultmtd View Post
                      Welcome Tim...new blood keeps this forum alive and healthy...chain pike are a welcome tug on the end of your line when cold weather has closed down our normal fishery...yellow perch, crappie, blue catfish are on the target list in early spring as are the DNR stocked “put and take” Rainbow and Golden Trout. Best of luck out on the water!
                      Thank you for the welcome, and it certainly does. I look forward to learning a lot from you gentlemen. The perch run has been running strong and thank you for the wish!
                      Tim M. Elliott
                      Pasadena
                      Pelican Boost Angler 100, Garmin Striker 4

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                      • #12
                        John,

                        Thank you for the welcome and I think it would it be great to get out on the water together as well. And yes you are correct, I only logged one fish for the tournament as most were less than 20 inches. I did much better back in November with several fish 21"-25" but could not replicate it this winter. Steve Wagner, who placed 2nd, also happened to be fishing Rock Creek, so it goes to show that I am extremely fortunate to have such large fish present in my backyard.
                        Tim M. Elliott
                        Pasadena
                        Pelican Boost Angler 100, Garmin Striker 4

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                        • #13
                          Thank you Mark, and I also agree that any pickerel over 20" is a trophy. It seems that Rock Creek is able to support large specimens of pickerel. The largest that I have heard of come out of Rock Creek was 27 inches, caught by one of my friends about 4-5 years ago. The only other tidal river that holds a strong population of big pickerel is the Pocomoke. And it is such an intriguing question as to what happened to them. I would love to find out what causes this cycle of them vanishing and reappearing. If I ever find an answer, you will certainly hear from me.
                          Tim M. Elliott
                          Pasadena
                          Pelican Boost Angler 100, Garmin Striker 4

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