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  • #16
    The Native Ultimate and their newer Ultimate FX models do not have scupper drains. The upper side is conceptually like a canoe, but with more comfortable seating. But the underside is contoured like a kayak. It has deeper sponsons to the sides with a slightly raised portion down the centerline. This gives great stability.

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    My Ultimate FX15 has relatively higher sides and more freeboard than some of the sit-on-top models I have used before. I do not anticipate taking many waves or wakes over the sides. I intentionally added the long bow cover to help deflect any waves or spray that comes over the bow. I have had it on the water twice -- both were calm days. At the end of each trip I found about 1/2 gallon of water in the bottom. This was entirely due to drippage off the paddle blades. Once on land, I was able to lay the kayak on a slope and quickly bail out most of the water.

    Someone asked if I use a bilge pump. I do not do that. I am aware that some owners of the older Ultimate 14.5 have installed bilge pumps, but I feel that is unnecessary. I carry a plastic bailer and a chamois cloth so I can remove small volumes of water quickly. I am unlikely to use this kayak in very rough water (waves 2.5' or greater). Under conditions less rough than that I think I will not take on much water.

    The listed weight capacity of this kayak is 600 lb. With me and my minimal gear, that leaves over 300 lbs of additional safety room before getting to an unstable condition. Water weighs about 8.3 lb/gal. It would take 36 gallons of water before I reach the extra 300 lbs. I pay enough attention that I would begin bailing and/or head toward shallow water long before I reached that volume. Most of the areas where I plan to use this kayak have some deep water in channels, but mostly they have shallower water depth in which I can stand. I do not anticipate being long distances from shallow water at any time.

    I believe that the Ultimate FX15, like its older sibling Ultimate 14.5, should ride and track quite well even with a bit of water (ballast) along the floor. I look forward to testing the hull out on a rougher day. A kayak guide I use in the Florida Keys bought the same model kayak for his guide business. He installed a Torqueedo motor and battery and carries a lot more weight than I do. He has been out of several rough days and feels comfortable (he does not have the bow cover installed yet on his boat).
    John Veil
    Annapolis
    Native Watercraft Manta Ray 11, Falcon 11

    Author - "Fishing in the Comfort Zone" , "Fishing Road Trip - 2019", "My Fishing Life: Two Years to Remember", and "The Way I Like to Fish -- A Kayak Angler's Guide to Shallow Water, Light Tackle Fishing"

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Fish123 View Post
      Congrats John. Hopefully this is a better year in the Severn than last. I got the skunk the 2 times I’ve been out this year. What size and color xrap? I haven’t had any luck in the xr-12ghost color. Looks like a neat kayak do you have a bilge pump in it?
      The X-Rap lure I used was an X-Rap 10 (I initially reported it was an X-Rap 8, but corrected my earlier post) in olive green color SXR10 OG.
      John Veil
      Annapolis
      Native Watercraft Manta Ray 11, Falcon 11

      Author - "Fishing in the Comfort Zone" , "Fishing Road Trip - 2019", "My Fishing Life: Two Years to Remember", and "The Way I Like to Fish -- A Kayak Angler's Guide to Shallow Water, Light Tackle Fishing"

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      • #18
        Originally posted by J.A. Veil View Post
        The X-Rap lure I used was an X-Rap 10 (I initially reported it was an X-Rap 8, but corrected my earlier post) in olive green color SXR10 OG.
        Sweet thanks. I’m cleaning up my tackle in the garage currently and found that exact sxr-10 in olive green. Guess I bought it and it fell to the back of a drawer. Maybe I’ll catch you in the Severn this season.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by J.A. Veil View Post
          ...I believe that the Ultimate FX15, like its older sibling Ultimate 14.5, should ride and track quite well even with a bit of water (ballast) along the floor...
          On a guided outing in Tampa I once paddled an Ultimate 14.5 with no bow cover well over a mile back to shore in very rough seas during a sudden onset storm. I took on so much water, it was literally sloshing around my ankles during that trip. The kayak continued to float and track well. I never felt that I was in danger of losing control of the boat. It was so heavy with water, I needed another adult to help me tip it over on the beach to drain it.

          An Ultimate will never completely sink because it has flotation foam in the bow and stern. But you would be hard pressed to flip it over to empty it while in deep water. A handpump or bailing scoop is probably a wise accessory to carry. But the best thing to do is to be judicious when and where you use it as John suggests. Honestly, if the water is too choppy for my Ultimates, I wouldn't even take my SOT Hobie Revo out. And that boat sheds water and cuts through waves extremely well.

          I presently own two Ultimates, a regular 12 and and an FX 12. I used to own a 14.5 too. In my opinion, as a paddle-driven fishing kayak, Ultimates have no equals when it comes to a combination of comfort, roominess, stability, ease of paddling, speed and transportability on land.
          Mark
          Pasadena, MD


          Slate Hobie Revolution 13
          Hidden Oak Native Ultimate 12
          Lizard Lick Native Ultimate FX Pro

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          • #20
            First fish in my new kayak

            I got out today on the Severn out of weems. I got one what I estimate to be about 19-20in that hit the xrap sxr 10 in olive green color. I got the white perch on a perch pounder in chartreuse/white.


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            • #21
              Today was my 4th trip on my new Kayak in the last month (and newness to Kayak fishing). We were in Breton Bay and I ended up catching three stripers, but all were around 11-12 inches. I didn't mind throwing them back and I still have fun whether I catch anything or not.

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