8 lb enough?

[susqeyaker]

I've been using 10lb braid power pro for a few years on my 7 foot ultralite uglystik. With a snap swivel and no leader. Awsome fun catching stripers and smallies. Allmost never break my line.

[Salty Dog]

10lb braid on light rods, 20lb braid on med to med heavy rods. Its easier to remember that way. and it works.

[Cowpokey]

I have 20# braid on my main rods and tie directly to the lure or snap swivel, usually.

I did some mono (17# Berkley Super Mono to 20# Fireline braid) to braid testing this evening, and came up with some interesting results. Tied directly with a splice didn't work for me. I tried a double fisherman's and blood knot; both failed miserably. Probably because the diameter isn't close enough on each.

I did a "Loop to Loop" connection and it worked very well. Surprisingly the 20# braid broke at the knot used to form the loop.

I should have tried the "Perfection loop" for each of them, but used a simple "figure 8 on a bight", the braid failed at the 8.

Basic loop to loop, for an idea how to do it. I suggest using the "perfection loop", I use it all the time for leader to tippet connections fly fishing.

[reel-em-in]

I use the "Alberto knot" for braid to mono connections. Knock on wood I haven't had a failure yet.

[Skidsteer]

Good information at:

http://www.tuf-line.com/superline_info.php

Three tabs are on this page - "User Tips", "Essential Knots", and "Splicing Techniques".

[Slobber Bob]

I use the "Alberto knot" for braid to mono connections. Knock on wood I haven't had a failure yet.

+1 on this knot. It's worked great for me for several years now connecting mono leader to braid.

[Fishinfool]

I have 20# braid on my main rods and tie directly to the lure or snap swivel, usually.

I did some mono (17# Berkley Super Mono to 20# Fireline braid) to braid testing this evening, and came up with some interesting results. Tied directly with a splice didn't work for me. I tried a double fisherman's and blood knot; both failed miserably. Probably because the diameter isn't close enough on each.



I did a "Loop to Loop" connection and it worked very well. Surprisingly the 20# braid broke at the knot used to form the loop.

I should have tried the "Perfection loop" for each of them, but used a simple "figure 8 on a bight", the braid failed at the 8.

Basic loop to loop, for an idea how to do it. I suggest using the "perfection loop", I use it all the time for leader to tippet connections fly fishing.

That loop to loop is also called a bowline. It's a very common sailor's knot. I use it on just about every rig, except a basic high/low bottom rig where I don't need a leader. I just connect 10 lb braid directly
to the standard bottom rig using a double clinch knot. Never had a break off with either.

Poor Pat, his head must be swimming by now!

[Cowpokey]

That loop to loop is also called a bowline. It's a very common sailor's knot. I use it on just about every rig, except a basic high/low bottom rig where I don't need a leader.

Negative, there is not a bowline pictured in my post above. The top picture is a "perfection knot", in the bottom picture I'm guessing is either a "double overhand" or a "figure 8".

A bowline is not a good knot for fishing, because it easily comes untied after being loaded if it isn't backed up with something like double fisherman's or a Yosemite finish. I use those for rock climbing and tower work, there are much better options for fishing. Generally when tying knots for fishing there is very rarely a desire to be able to untie it later. One of the exceptions being to replace the leader or tippet, which is where a loop to loop is useful.

For clarification, below is a bowline:

[Skidsteer]

Maybe I'm missing something, but Loop #1 in the upper drawing doesn't look like it would cinch up as drawn - should that tag end go through Loop #2?

[Skidsteer]

Nevermind - I got it - pull loop 2 through loop 1.

[Pat Smith]

Actually I'm all good. I commercial fished growing up and did a lot of recreational fishing too. But that was in Minnesota for fresh water fish. I appreciate all the different input. Knots are awesome, it like a secret language that only fishermen know. I guess I have always just used a basic fishing knot, it is nice learning a couple others.

[Frogsauce]

The only knots I use regularly are:

Carrick (in nets, or large rope to join)
Dropper
Blood
Surgeons Loop (I use a simpler version of this)
Bowline

And of course, everyones favorite:
Trilene

In Japan I used mostly eyeless hooks. I wish we had those here.

[Cowpokey]

The only knots I use regularly are:

Carrick (in nets, or large rope to join)
Dropper
Blood
Surgeons Loop (I use a simpler version of this)
Bowline

And of course, everyones favorite:
Trilene

In Japan I used mostly eyeless hooks. I wish we had those here.

I like the animated knots site, been using it for years.

I never cared for the eyeless hooks, but that's all they seem to use in Japan and Korea...good thing for mail order.

[Frogsauce]

I started really liking them after I had to use them for a while (and learned to tie them right). Only because when matched up with the right line, they are much easier to pull out of the coral when a fish runs you into it. And it lets you use super heavy main line without worrying about snapping the line/pole etc (because the hook will break loose first).

I doubt I would have to worry about all that around here.

[Cowpokey]

I started really liking them after I had to use them for a while (and learned to tie them right). Only because when matched up with the right line, they are much easier to pull out of the coral when a fish runs you into it. And it lets you use super heavy main line without worrying about snapping the line/pole etc (because the hook will break loose first).

I doubt I would have to worry about all that around here.

What part of Japan were you in? I spent my first two years in the USAF at Kadena, down in Okinawa...loved that assignment.