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Timing is everything.....Bull Reds...Eastern Shore, VA
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Originally posted by mango View Postcongrats on your well deserved fish. now that the red is marked off of your list, what are you going to target next?
And Pinch out of nowhere with what I was really thinking. Hahaha.___________________________
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In charlie's defense. I can understand his point of view. I too came to forums years ago to get fishing info, especially on where to fish. I soon learned I can get generally info and not specific spots. Anglers have their so-called "secret spots" and don't want to openly reveal them. But Ron made a good point about the changing nature of secret spots. That is, conditions change, fish roam, the blue moon isn't behind the 7th star, etc. So, specific spots are generally not always productive. A good angler would fish surroundings areas with a search and explore mindset.
Most of the fishing spots I identified as "good spots" have been through trial and error. That is, hard work and many skunks. When I go out to a location, part of my fishing routine is to watch and observe other anglers on boats, shore, piers, yaks, etc. I ask questions and trade info (e.g., where and what I catch) with other anglers. That is, collect intel on technique, bait used, etc. I also watch my FF too, and try to remember drops, depths, etc. After a while you develop patterns in your mind on where the fish are likely to be, and you develop confidence when you catch that fish.
So, charlie, you're OK in my book. You'll catch fish, but you'll have work at it. Use whatever info you can get to your best advantage. If you leave this Forum, you're not doing yourself a favor in becoming a better angler. I encourage you not only to learn from the Forum, but to also contribute through your reports, tips, etc.
BTW, Ravens. A friend and I fished that area enough to know the surroundings. My friend figured out where you caught the bulls, even with the photoshop work, and I agreed with him on the general area. We figured it out based on collective information (e.g., general public info, our experience with fishing areas, and past face-to-face conversations with other anglers). Again, it took past work to figure it out, just like the work you did (and your positive mindset, dreams and unrelenting drive) in ultimately catching your dream fish. Even if "average anglers" had the right info, I don't think they, initially, would have the determination and drive to get that dream fish.2015 Hobie Outback (yellow)
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Originally posted by tufnik View PostIn charlie's defense. I can understand his point of view. I too came to forums years ago to get fishing info, especially on where to fish. I soon learned I can get generally info and not specific spots. Anglers have their so-called "secret spots" and don't want to openly reveal them. But Ron made a good point about the changing nature of secret spots. That is, conditions change, fish roam, the blue moon isn't behind the 7th star, etc. So, specific spots are generally not always productive. A good angler would fish surroundings areas with a search and explore mindset.
Most of the fishing spots I identified as "good spots" have been through trial and error. That is, hard work and many skunks. When I go out to a location, part of my fishing routine is to watch and observe other anglers on boats, shore, piers, yaks, etc. I ask questions and trade info (e.g., where and what I catch) with other anglers. That is, collect intel on technique, bait used, etc. I also watch my FF too, and try to remember drops, depths, etc. After a while you develop patterns in your mind on where the fish are likely to be, and you develop confidence when you catch that fish.
So, charlie, you're OK in my book. You'll catch fish, but you'll have work at it. Use whatever info you can get to your best advantage. If you leave this Forum, you're not doing yourself a favor in becoming a better angler. I encourage you not only to learn from the Forum, but to also contribute through your reports, tips, etc.
BTW, Ravens. A friend and I fished that area enough to know the surroundings. My friend figured out where you caught the bulls, even with the photoshop work, and I agreed with him on the general area. We figured it out based on collective information (e.g., general public info, our experience with fishing areas, and past face-to-face conversations with other anglers). Again, it took past work to figure it out, just like the work you did (and your positive mindset, dreams and unrelenting drive) in ultimately catching your dream fish. Even if "average anglers" had the right info, I don't think they, initially, would have the determination and drive to get that dream fish.
I still get a kick out of posters who "photoshop" out the numbers or landmarks in their photos but can view the GPS coordinates in the pictures EXIF (only works if picture taken with a smartphone though)Dave
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Originally posted by charlieru View PostI started to like your thread until you got kind of greedy and started talking about not disclosing the location of your trip as if it was some kind of classified information of something. But after seeing the lousy Photoshop editing employed to hide some details I have to say that I am done looking at this forums for information on where to go fishing for bulls or any other species for that matter.
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Yeah, dsmero, his message did sound a bit too strong, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt because some people may not fully understand etiquette and need to be "guided." If we teach people, they can become contributing friends.
I know what you mean about reports that don't even mention the general area. It's like, "What's the point?" I think the idea should be to motivate and encourage others, and mentioning the area gives people the motivation to check it out too and hopefully report back to help more people.2015 Hobie Outback (yellow)
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How many times have you asked us to join you at Kiptopeake, Tuf? Delaware? Most can't take off work when a fellow MKF member is headed out on a road trip for a species- This June I'll be headed down to Back River/Bluefish Rock to cobia fish- and I'll ask for company- you want to learn how, where, what baits, how to rig those baits to catch cobia- join a trip targeting a species you want to catch- Cobia are bruisers on a rod and great table fare-best way to fish for them is chumming with live spot for bait- And anyone up for an ES Tarpon trip in July?"Lady Luck" 2016 Red Hibiscus Hobie Outback, Lowrance Hook2-7TS
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Originally posted by ronaultmtd View PostHow many times have you asked us to join you at Kiptopeake, Tuf? Delaware? Most can't take off work when a fellow MKF member is headed out on a road trip for a species- This June I'll be headed down to Back River/Bluefish Rock to cobia fish- and I'll ask for company- you want to learn how, where, what baits, how to rig those baits to catch cobia- join a trip targeting a species you want to catch- Cobia are bruisers on a rod and great table fare-best way to fish for them is chumming with live spot for bait- And anyone up for an ES Tarpon trip in July?<insert witty comment here>
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You're absolutely right, Ron. Most people have different and tough schedules. Work, family commitments, charities, church activities, etc. Hard to coordinate, not to mention changing wx conditions. Some people make last second decisions to fish while others can stick to a pre-planned outing date. Some really don't like to go out on marginal wx conditions. Some people go with their regular circle of friends. I think many of us have asked or received invitations for trips, only to maybe go through with some of them. Just because a person does or does not extend invitations, or accepts or declines invitations, does not mean that person is unfavorable. Not everyone openly extends invitations. That's cool. I think everyone should do what they feel comfortable with depending on their priorities and goals. After all, it's suppose to be fun with no undue pressure.2015 Hobie Outback (yellow)
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